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The reason why I include 2 frictionless rubbers in my top 3 is simply because there is IMO, no friction rubber that offers as much reversal as the L1 and still in my opinion, the L1 imparts more backspin than frictionless rubbers.

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That's an interesting comment. Anyone else who's tried L1 agree?

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I would definitely not say the L1 creates more spin reversal on passive blocks than frictionless rubbers, although I do agree that the L1 is among the best if not the best non-frictionless pips for spin reversal.

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Let's not forget our recently off-the-radar LP darling, Bomb Talent. I've used both BT and L1 and think BT had more reversal, along with way more disruption (L1 has almost none).

Wow Grass Dtech does not get a mention?

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Chop til you drop baby!

1. DTech
2. Bomb Talent
3. Meteorite / L1

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Chop til you drop baby!

Had to do something to fix the situation .
Even though to me DTec has the most spin reversal and is very disturbing against a certain level of players, it isn't easy to control. Against good players that can loop anything, the DTecs becomes a liability.

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Spin reversal can only be created today if you chop and friction rubbers create no spin reversal on passive blocks but some kind of no spin ball.

The reason why I put L1 before 2 frictionless rubbers is due to the fact that it is in my opinion the best chopper on the market today. I ranked SB and Original in 2d and 3rd cos even if they were designed for blocking, the spin reversal on chops was more than decent.

A friend that uses the Dtecs in Ox on a barricade blade tried my racket last week and he was pretty impressed with the spin reversal of the L1.

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Blade : TSP Toccata Carbon Def
FH : Shark II 33° 2mm Black
BH : Octopus Ox red

1.Bomb Talent ox black
2. 1615 DF ox black
3. Globe 979 ox

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A friend who was previously using Bomb Talent in Ox switched to the L1 a couple of weeks ago and will stick to Akkadi's rubber. According to him, the L1 offers more spin reversal, more attacking possibilities and has better control. He also added that the L1 is more disturbing than his previous rubbers (including Bomb Talent).

The L1 has "gained" 10 new players in 2 weeks in France and I guess sales will keep on increasing.

One thing that has to be kept in mind is that the L1 works much better on a stiff blade than on balsa blades.

I don't mean to "promote" the L1 but after the frictionless ban, it is for my game, the best replacement.

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Blade : TSP Toccata Carbon Def
FH : Shark II 33° 2mm Black
BH : Octopus Ox red

1. Feint Long II
2. TSP P1R
3. Milkyway Neptune

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nathanso, those were exactly my findings as well. MarathonMan made an interesting comment about the L1, however:



I had the L1 on a Hallmark Aurora blade, on the defensive, slower side. So, I didn't hit with the L1 on a stiff blade at all. So, that will definitely cause different experiences.

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Hi all

I agree with Marathon Man when he mentions...


Most reversal are provided with long pips and a thin spong. I don't like to talk about reversal related to ox-versions.

1. Milky Way Neptune with a 0.7 mm spong make even reversal if there isn't much spin in the incoming ball. Chop blocks offers enough spin reversal and most reversal comes up when chopping. Oppenents at my leverl can only push these chops back.

2. Amsir Surprise with the thin spong makes the ball very slow and there's many reversal when chopping. An active play with this long pips rubber is a bit difficult and I play now again with a black Neptune and 0.7 mm spong.

3. Don't forget the Curl P1-R, because this rubber has a great reversal too. This rubber is in my eyes great only when chopping. Block, counter strokes and smashes are very difficult to play safely.

To all former frictionless pimples players: Learn to play a variable game with a grippy long pips rubber and you have got much more possibilities to play and your opponent has much more trouble to read your game

Cheers, Martin

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Cheers, Martin

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Passive reversal does not exist with grippy LPs. Insider was not really grippy and the spin reversal was very light compared to frictionless pimple rubbers. There is in my opinion no friciton rubber than can impart a small amount of backspin when blocking. If you wanna have spin reversal, you have to chopblock; if you do a regular block, you will send a no spin ball.

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Fringe rocks big time!!!!!

Blade : TSP Toccata Carbon Def
FH : Shark II 33° 2mm Black
BH : Octopus Ox red