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There are also a lot of combo blades

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Thanks for your big list of blades

I prefer to rate the speed of the slower side with combo blades.

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Cheers, Martin

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Let me join the others who've justly extolled this great post.

Now, my note from personal experience: I'm sure everyone will have their own areas of agreement/disagreement based on their own experiences, so let me put in my two cents, which concerns the Xiom Guillotine that I've now been using for almost 1.5 years now. I'm surprised that you find it better for a close-to-the-table game than for long defense. It's a grippy, fast, soft rubber with a tensor sponge, and although I use it for blocking as well, when I block with it, the main challenge for my opponents is the speed and the angles, not the reversal, which is minimal; chopping and spin variation is where it excels. The Guillotine is very disturbing, as far as I can see, but the disturbance comes from the fact that it can generate its own spin and, thus, small differences on contact make a big difference in spin. Also, the spin on chops against loops is the strongest I've seen (compared to Akkadi L1, Grass d.tecs, Hallmark Phoenix, 388D-1, DHS Cloud & Fog, Bomb Talent, Feint Long III, Prasidha Long-A and a few others I've tested that I'm forgetting), but anyway, as I said, it's easy to nitpick with an ambitious post like yours, since all of us will have some particular rubber that we're more familiar with, while you're testing many, many different rubbers, so I can't complain.

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I tried to rate the abilities of the rubbers as objective as possible. Naturally I have got my own appreciation. A good balance between control and danger was important for me. If the control of a rubber is more important than the danger for someone he would rate a rubber different. My results are not objective but a good reference for people who are searching an appropriate long pips ruber. I'm sure the Guillotine is overall a good covering. I found the spin reversal to less for my game. But the control was good. You've found your perfect rubber for your backhand play. That's great and don't take my ratings too seriously

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I absolutely agree that the spin reversal with this rubber isn't very high. That's not what it excels at.

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I have started a new thread to review Yasaka Phantom 011 ∞ viewtopic.php?f=11&t=14717 as discussed above.

Many thanks, speedplay

First I will test short and mid-long pips and afterwards anti. But I need a lot of time and money to do this But some day I've got all infos about our beloved rubbers. Im happy with the test of all long pimple rubbers because I've got goods cards to find my ultimate racket for my style.

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There's an easy solution for you here speedplay

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Martin
Great exercise.
I played with Dawei 388D black ox on a Eleven Up Touch Combi Light Blade on the slower side with Joola Express Xtra soft on the forehand faster side, the disturbing effect was not great but the control was good for hitting / blocking and chopping away from the table, the only problem with the chopping side is that you do not get much backspin on the ball.

At the start of this season I played with Bomb Talent black ox on a Eleven Up Touch Combi Light Blade on the slower side with Joola Express Xtra soft on the forehand faster side, the disturbing was better but the control was not as good as the Dawei 388D for service returns and pushing, it was good for hitting / blocking and chopping away from the table, with the chopping away from the table I got a lot of backspin on the ball.

At Christmas I switched to CTT Pogo black OX on a Eleven Up Touch Combi Light Blade on the slower side with Joola Express Xtra soft on the forehand faster side, I think this rubber is very similar to the Dawei 388D.

From your research do you have a recommendation for me to try with the Eleven Up Touch Combi Light Blade, I play a looping attacking game on my forehand side with Joola Express Extra Soft Maximum Red rubber, and a blocking / hitting / chopping game on the Long Pimpled side.
Any feedback would be much appreciated.
Regards
Bazzer from the UK

Hi Bazzer

I don't know the Touch Combi Light Blade. If it's the same as the Xi Up Touch Combi Light blade with about ALL+ on the slower and about OFF- on the faster side I would suggest you the Yasaka 0011 Infinity on the faster side with the extra thin spong (0,5 mm). This rubber is available at iruiru.com. The rubber is perfect for your distance and has the qualities you are searching for.

Cheers, Martin

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Cheers, Martin

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Martin
Thank-you for your feedback it is much appreciated, I will let you know how I go on with it. I used to play in the Notts Premier, Mansfield Premier and Grantham Division One, Midland League and Count Veterans. I have now moved to Leicestershire and play in the Loughborough and Leicester top divisions. Thank-you for your incredible hard work on this.
Regards Bazzer

Martin: Have you noticed a difference in long pip performance based upon the feeling of the blade,i.e. soft, medium, hard ? It has been my experience that grippy long pips with a soft sponge can be used more offensively against a variety of spins when used on a blade that has a soft feel than a harder feel. For example, when I tried Grass offense 1.0 on a Nittaku ShellShock,(soft feel), I could not attack dead balls or medium topspin near as effectively as I could with grass defense 1.0, which has a softer sponge. Also, when I played the grass defense 1.0 on harder feeling blades, Butterfly's Grubba Carbon and Desmond Douglas, the lost of control on attacking shots was very obvious.