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PostPosted: 14 Dec 2015, 11:34 
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Blade: Yasaka Sweden Defensive
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I have bought and tried about 10 different defensive blades and my favourite 2 slowest blades are the TIBHAR CO-S-3 Defence and the Joola Toni Hold White Spot blade. These two blades are excellent for LP blocking closed to the table against strong looping and also great for LP chopping and hitting. Both of these blades are in straight handle only and I prefer the handle of the Joola Toni Hold since it's more narrow and longer. I am using the Friendship 755 Ox on the backhand. Best of all, the TIBHAR CO-S-3 Defence blade is very cheap.

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Setup 1: Joola Toni Hold White Spot, Donic Bluefire M2 max on forehand, Friendship 755 Ox on backhand
Setup 2: Yasaka Sweden Defensive, Stiga Calibra Tour M max on forehand, Friendship 755 Ox on backhand
Setup 3: Butterfly Matsushita Pro Special, Yasaka Rakza 7 max on forehand, Bomb Talent 0.5mm on backhand
Setup 4: Nittaku Resist, Xiom Sigma I Europe max on forehand, Friendship 755 0.5 mm on backhand
Setup 5: Victas Koji Matsushita, Yasaka Rakza 7 max on forehand, Bomb Talent 0.5mm on backhand
Setup 6: Butterfly Defence 4, Yasaka Rakza 7 max on forehand, Bomb Talent 0.5mm on backhand


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PostPosted: 15 Dec 2015, 03:18 
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"i personally dont like it, but, can you make a blade slow enough to block hard balls with the BH and fast enough to still have some power on FH w/o balsa catapult effect?"

Of all the blades I've tried the Tibhar Defense + comes the closest.....with the right FH rubber. I'm currently using the blade with max Cornillieau Target Sound/DG OX. Great combo....

I use this blade to block and chop. Almost ZERO catapult effect.


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PostPosted: 15 Dec 2015, 22:38 
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so much suggestions...who will try it all? :)

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PostPosted: 16 Dec 2015, 01:23 
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111Iceman111 wrote:
so much suggestions...who will try it all? :)


Members of this board! The EJs among us will. (and I am as bad as any of them)


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PostPosted: 22 Dec 2015, 06:24 
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TSP x.Series Defense Combi

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PostPosted: 22 Dec 2015, 12:36 
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Has any one tried Sardius and Grass D-Tech?


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PostPosted: 22 Dec 2015, 12:40 
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Blade: Yasaka Sweden Defensive
FH: Stiga Calibra Tour M max
BH: Friendship 729 - 755 Ox
Sardius is too fast for Long Pips.
Tibhar CO-S-3 is perfect for Long Pips and it's only 1/15 price of the Sardius.
Do not waste money to buy expensive blades.
Tibhar CO-S-3 is one of the cheapest professional blades and I can use it to beat lots of advanced players with very expensive "Butterfly" blades.

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Setup 1: Joola Toni Hold White Spot, Donic Bluefire M2 max on forehand, Friendship 755 Ox on backhand
Setup 2: Yasaka Sweden Defensive, Stiga Calibra Tour M max on forehand, Friendship 755 Ox on backhand
Setup 3: Butterfly Matsushita Pro Special, Yasaka Rakza 7 max on forehand, Bomb Talent 0.5mm on backhand
Setup 4: Nittaku Resist, Xiom Sigma I Europe max on forehand, Friendship 755 0.5 mm on backhand
Setup 5: Victas Koji Matsushita, Yasaka Rakza 7 max on forehand, Bomb Talent 0.5mm on backhand
Setup 6: Butterfly Defence 4, Yasaka Rakza 7 max on forehand, Bomb Talent 0.5mm on backhand


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PostPosted: 07 Apr 2018, 08:34 
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RebornTTEvnglist wrote:
111Iceman111 wrote:
exactly this^^^

all of you that are playing with faster blades, but block with lp on the table, how do you survive 3rd ball attack from a good players?


I don't know about other blockers Iceman, but speaking only for myself I have developed a block with my LP that is quite a weapon against attackers. I've kind of coined my own term for them which I call "Bullet Blocks". I play against pretty high level players (ranging from ~US2000 to ~US2400 or so), so I get attacked quite heavily. There is nothing more satisfying (other than perhaps my own FH putaway) than meeting a fast and heavy loop, or a smash, with a block from the LP that goes back at them almost as fast as it came with a spin that is twisting with evil. Now the better players often still have the presence of mind to lift and return some of these, but many will just send them into the net or over-react and send them long. The shot itself requires good reflex to get the blade into the right place, with the right angle and touch for the incoming ball. Its taken just past the bounce at a point where the ball has risen just slightly higher than net height because the ball going back will be virtually in a direct line with just slight gravity perhaps to have it fall a little. But mainly its travelling in a straight line, and usually with some underspin which tends to fight the gravity. On good nights, I've beaten some pretty highly rated attackers by making this shot time and time again. Its taken me years to develop the shot and all the instincts it requires, but for a player of my style, its the only way to survive as I've climbed the grades.

And I should add, without the speed and stiffness of my Gergely, this shot wouldn't be near as deadly as it is.


very interesting to see how you play block with fast carbon blade against heavy looper
do you have any of your video against heavy looper?


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PostPosted: 07 Apr 2018, 09:30 
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Blade: XVT Balsa Carbon 10mm all
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XVT Balsa Carbon 10 mm thick less than $25

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XVT balsa carbon 10mm / 4H Xiom Sigma Pro 2 2.0 / BH Globe 979 Long Pips OX / Play Left-handed shakehand
Stiga Def Wood / 4H Xiom Sigma Pro 2 2.0 / BH GD CC LP OX .. Play Left-handed
Cpen SOS Wood / 4H 729 802-40 2.0 / BH GD Talon use righthanded shakehand grip
HARDBAT / Shakehand Hock 3 ply / Friendship Dr Evil OX .. Play Right-handed


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PostPosted: 08 Apr 2018, 00:14 
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way to necro a 3 years old thread:)

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PostPosted: 08 Apr 2018, 12:40 
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111Iceman111 wrote:
way to necro a 3 years old thread:)


I'll update my pick anyways. :)

Back then I have said, that hard to find blade slower than Hallmark Aurora.

Based on others input and personal trial, two blades slower that Aurora. :)

Speed P. = Speed Potential, how bouncy on flat hit. Speed P. 0.0 is equal the most unbouncy blade You might find, sans pre-made, while 10.0 means, the most bouncy blade You might find.
Control P. = The probability that next Blocker and LP Player like this blade, divided by 10. that means Control P. 5.0 means half of Blocker and LP Player probably would like it. ;)

Blade Speed P. Control P.
Donic Alligator Combi 2.8 7.0
KTL (LKT) Toxic 5 2.9 2.9
Hallmark Aurora 3.6 3.6
Nittaku Shake Defence 3.7 4.8
Butterfly Joo Se Hyuk 3.8 3.9
DHS Dipper CP Monocarbon 4.6 4.6
Donic Opticon 4.9 4.5
Donic Epox PowerAllround 5.6 5.7
Yasaka Silverline All Wood 5.7 7.3
Friendship/729 Fighter Arylate Carbon 5.9 4.8
Butterfly Maze T-Tec ALL+ 6.0 3.3
Palio T7 6.0 5.8
Andro Super Core Cell Carbon OFF 6.1 6.4
Galaxy Y-4 6.2 4.1
Galaxy T-6 6.3 5.5
DHS PF4 032 6.3 5.2
Andro Super Core Carbon Light (CL) OFF 6.6 4.1
Butterfly Andrzej Grubba Carbon 6.7 5.6
Cornilleau Simon Gauzy Quest Off 6.8 8.7
Xiom Amadeus 6.9 4.1
Palio TCT 7.8 2.8
Donic Bloodwood 7 Senso 8.2 2.4
Butterfly Gergely 21 8.6 2.1


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PostPosted: 08 Apr 2018, 15:56 
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Loopover,

I recently purchased that XVT blade and it's tiny. Is yours really small or did I get a lemon?

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PostPosted: 10 Apr 2018, 12:54 
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gaijinjoe wrote:
Loopover,

I recently purchased that XVT blade and it's tiny. Is yours really small or did I get a lemon?


I have 3 of them all normal size.

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XVT balsa carbon 10mm / 4H Xiom Sigma Pro 2 2.0 / BH Globe 979 Long Pips OX / Play Left-handed shakehand
Stiga Def Wood / 4H Xiom Sigma Pro 2 2.0 / BH GD CC LP OX .. Play Left-handed
Cpen SOS Wood / 4H 729 802-40 2.0 / BH GD Talon use righthanded shakehand grip
HARDBAT / Shakehand Hock 3 ply / Friendship Dr Evil OX .. Play Right-handed


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PostPosted: 10 Apr 2018, 20:29 
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I guess maybe they're normal size for offensive blades. I'm used to blocking/chopping blades so it seems really small.

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