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PostPosted: 28 Jan 2011, 19:07 
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Howzit all,

I'm looking for some feedback on the TSP Curl PH Long Pips OX. I've been playing with Dr Neubauer Scalpel OX for awhile and just started to which to TSP PH. Just wanted to hear some comments.

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PostPosted: 28 Jan 2011, 19:56 
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i completely hated this rubber. It was very affected by incoming spin. Pimples were so stiff making it almost unplayable.

It was so stiff that hitting with any kind of "brush" motion the ball becomes very slow

I don't know how to describe this motion, but "punching" or twitching wrist sideways motion does work well with good speed.

For me, it was very horrible. I was using the OX version and I play close to table. But I tried to chop a bit with it, was horrible too.

It was truly quite a disappointment as TSP traditionally make very interesting pips, long or short, and Bamboo Curl was one of the better FLP's. P-H was just horrible

At least for me, it was very bad. Maybe some other people will have better luck with it


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PostPosted: 31 Jan 2011, 06:21 
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I agree with moming1 that TSP Curl PH is fast and it is very difficult to play properly with it. It appears to be not a good rubber for a defensive player. It may be suitable for an attacking player.


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GR wrote:
I agree with moming1 that TSP Curl PH is fast and it is very difficult to play properly with it. It appears to be not a good rubber for a defensive player. It may be suitable for an attacking player.

Moming didn't say it's fast, and I think it's actually one of the slowest LP around... but I found it to be too grippy, so I'd agree that it's probably more suited to an aggressive game.

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For and 0x long pip it is realatively easy to hit with even against some topspin. It's claimed you push a push and its chop not topspin, so it's unusual. Against the harder hitters it was a little too quick for me.

I felt it was very much like a nice hardbat rubber (yes I know they used to be short pips).

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The sheet I tried, on passive blocks it was extremly slow... in the bounce test it also came out as one of the slowest. OK, perhaps on high impact it is much faster.

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This is an old thread but the title is right.
Some of what follows repeats what others have said.

Hard hits:
Contrary to some information we have, PH's base sheet is very noticeably thicker than P3 or P1-R.
If the hit is hard enough to dig into this base sheet, outrageous topspin drives are possible, as with P3 or P1-R but more so.
Also (maybe because it's also harder), these drives are *much* faster than those from P3.

Medium hits:
I see what others have said about this thing sending blocks back slowly. It's distinctive.
What about the transition between the hard and medium behavior? I haven't noticed a problem.

Soft hits:
It feels *hard*, as though the ball just bangs into the tops of the pips and bounces off. It's loud too.
What about reversal, or no-spin (as many have said)? I can't say, but there's some chaos going on (as opposed to for example P4 where both players know pretty well what's happening). Very interesting.

This is an offensive-spirited rubber, plus change-of-speed to keep the opponent off balance.
Don't know that I will switch to it, just telling you what I found.
These observations are close-to-table, on a hard and rigid blade.


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i played about 2 years with the TSP P&H. It is a very good Lp for all kind of shot. Good control. Can hit, counter top spin and good chopblock. It has this special feature on the pushes. It create knuckle ball. stronger you push against other chop more the ball fall down. At the beginning my pushes were always short and fall in the net. I notice the strong reversal it has specially on these shot. So the ball top spin heavily after my pushes. This happen against strong opponent backspin. I thought at the beginning that it was the heavy backspin of the opponent that react on the pimples and send the ball in the net like inverted rubber. But no, pimples don't do that. I used my black and white ball to see the rotation and the ball that goes in the net was having top spin. So I started to push haeavy and wow the ball fall down right after the net. The opponnent has some difficulties to play with that bal as it is short and spinny and can double bounce on the table. I also strait hit these ball with a side spin. It cretaed weird bounce.

I wrote that in an other forum and this is what I'm thinking of what has been said before:

I always been a big swinger for my shot. So I really felt that ittrue that the ball get grasped by the pips when there is quite some force on the shot. Rip chop, cut, counter. The pips being strong create a flat stroke if playing perpendicular to the ball with no angle than good reversal can occur. The reversal is less when you hit the ball with an angle as it grasp the ball. I feel playing with kind of MP and it has similar caracteristics. Look on the internet and you will see tons of forum on it. Go on the overview Pimple summary and clic on the TSP PH and you will go on the Noppentest site and you will get very good review.

P.s: Regarding the push, what it says is that the rubber create good nuckleball. Against other push, you push will have reversal and fall down right after the net if you push strongly. Flat hit create similar ball but faster and longer. Against top, you can grasp the ball and create a good push. I got the rubber out of my storage room and see if I can reproduce similar shot than the agressor. Beeing with agressor for about 3 months now, PH look like a small agressor. Ph has incredible control for me for the push. I may used it against other defender as the control on the table is fantastic. I always go into a rally of push against defender and got excellent result.

You may find also an other review from spinmantra where they compare all the TSp Lp. What they say about the PH is very accurate.

I will try it again tonight and will let you know of the finding compare to agressor. After 5 years that I put it on the shlves I know I learn a few trics and will see how the PH will do. In the last world tournament for women , the autralian girl is using PH to attack with it. ( Lay jiang fang.)


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