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Over the past two years, many long pimple players used Grass Dtec ox, but with the new version being introduced by the manufacturers, have players now stopped using Grass Dtec and which long pimpled rubber is now being used?

Some stuck with the new D.Tecs. Other popular ones are Dr. Neubauer Desperado, Spinlord Dornenglanz and Giant Dragon Talon.

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Over the years I have tested many many long pips rubbers and there are a two that in my opinion are better than the rest.

D-tecs, best for the all-round game many easy points against any opponent. Still not suited for everyone as it's not very easy to control

Curlp1-r, best for classic defense, insane amount of backspin

All other pips rubbers hardly come close, maybe badman or giant dragon talon. Best All-round easy to control(and cheap) I think is palio ck531a. Others that come to mind are desperado and dornenglanz.

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Win-tec power def Tibhar 5Q sound Power Update 1.8 * Spinlord Agenda ox
TSP Balsa 3.5 Tibhar Genius+Optimium sound 1.8 * Grass D-tecs ox

Put to rest:
Galaxy T10 Bluefire M2 2.0 Palio Ck531a ox
Victas Koji Matsushita Tibhar Genius+Optimium sound MAX * Spinlord Dornenglanz ox
Donic Defplay Senso Tibhar Aurus Sound Black max * Grass D-tecs ox

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Hi Elvis,

is that Joola Badman Reloaded you're talking about? Did you try it in OX? How grippy? How is speed & control? Suitable for chopping away from table and/or blocking and/or attack?

Thanks

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Yes, I mean the joola badman reloaded. I played with this on someone else's blade and it seemed to be surprisingly good. I did not play long enough to make and decent recommendations. Some info from the german noppentest forum:



Quick translation: Badman is easy to play with, it feels like a slower D-tecs. Spin reversal is huge.Of all the pips I have tested badman and d-tecs have the biggest spin reversal. Blocking close to the table was very easy. Pushblocks are easy and fast. Easy to control. Pushblock not as dangerous as with D-tecs.Easier to return the ball(i think he means less sensitive to incoming spin) and therefor a bit less dangerous. If you hit the ball correctly very difficult for your opponent to spin/smash.

The topic is here: http://www.noppen-test.de/forum/viewtop ... =3&t=11689 in general the rest of the posters agree with the first post, away from the table it is comparable to D-tecs as well. But badman is more expensive than D-tecs so if you can play D-tecs stick with it.

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Competition bats:
Win-tec power def Tibhar 5Q sound Power Update 1.8 * Spinlord Agenda ox
TSP Balsa 3.5 Tibhar Genius+Optimium sound 1.8 * Grass D-tecs ox

Put to rest:
Galaxy T10 Bluefire M2 2.0 Palio Ck531a ox
Victas Koji Matsushita Tibhar Genius+Optimium sound MAX * Spinlord Dornenglanz ox
Donic Defplay Senso Tibhar Aurus Sound Black max * Grass D-tecs ox

Check out my quest for my new blade here: http://ooakforum.com/viewtopic.php?f=58&t=23241
Current standings:
Butterfly Matshushita powerdefence * Joola Chen Weixing * Nittaku KVU * Nittaku Shake defense* Tibhar stratus power defense * Victas Koji Matsushita * Yasaka Sweeper * Win-Tec power defence

New detecs is only second to old dtecs IMHO. On the Tachi the new plays very close to the old glue sheet version glued with tearmender. It's still a winner.

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Just like Elvis ---Dtech is still "King" of the pips.

Personally I have used both the new and old Dtecs OX. I have tried others in between the switch from old to new DTecs, but cannot find any that comes close to any of the Dtecs. Maybe because I am so used to the DTecs. So for me, it is DTecs OX all the way.

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Wow, you're using it on some pretty fast blades fattchoi!

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Dtecs is still the most diabolical rubber on the market. I've never even used the stuff but I've played against it more than I wanted to.

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Think I better revisit Dtecs on the Gergely. Memory of it was it wasn't as hard to control as Talon on the Gergely. Finding DG is feeling better and better on the Gergely, but still doesn't give the same control as Pogo...but nothing does! Dg is coming closer and closer though!

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Thanks a lot for the information, Elvis. Indeed, at noppentest, they are lyrical about Badman Reloaded, but at the same time not many people seem to play with it: practically everyone plays D'tecs there. Their reasoning will probably be: I can get extra deception for a lower price with D'tecs...

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Reb if I can play anywhere near my inverted level with the blade I have with 388d1 ox on it. Ill upgrade that to dtecs and be done with it. Since I don't really use my backhand anyway anything I can gain on that side will only help I'd say.

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Haifu whale soft (grips-euro)
Nittaku pimplemini 1.0mm

So your BH will really have "target" written on it then

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I'm always in the dark, but the Dark sheds lights upon everything!! Beauty is only pimple deep! Beauty is in the eye of the pipholder!
S/U 1: Blade: Bty Gergely . FH Black Andro Rasant 2.1 . BH Red Tibhar Grass Dtecs
S/U 2: Blade: Bty Gergely . FH Black Hexer+ 2.1 . BH Red GD Talon
S/U 3: Blade: Bty Gergely . No rubbers...thinking of adding Red Dtecs and Black Rasant
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