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I tried a sheet of 1615 (Double Fish) and after using it once, it already started losing pips.. It didn't play bad but not very long lasting..

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2010 Florida State Champion
Dr. Neubauer Firewall Plus with DHS G888 1.8 mm and Giant Dragon Dragon Talon OX National Team

Wow, you don't even hit with pips, you just block and push, that one must be very bad quality.

The other day, I was trying my best to separate the sponge (0.6) of my Prasidha 1615, after more than 2 hours of steaming and ironing (covered with moisten clothes, of course), I can only peel a two inch strip at the bottom, boy do they glue them good. Anyone has any better idea of how to separate them any easier?

However, I had absolutely no problem using the same method to separate the sponge and top sheets of Dawei 388D-1 0.6 and Feint Soft 1.3. Now, I have three OX pips, including my only 755 OX.

I'm playing modern defense. 1615 chops well enough for me off of the table, but retains the benefits of an OX pip when I'm stuck close to the table. My game is kind of like Lo Chuen Tsung's but with more chopping than blocking and at a much lower level

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Maybe I just got a bad sheet.. who knows..

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2010 Florida State Champion
Dr. Neubauer Firewall Plus with DHS G888 1.8 mm and Giant Dragon Dragon Talon OX National Team

Yes. Buy some "Acetone" pour it in a plate. Put the rubber with sponge facing down so the acetone can soak through the sponge. Leave it for 4-5 hours. Come back and the sponge should come straight off.

Rince the rubber in water and leave it for a day before gluing it on the blade.

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FH: Joola Express Ultra Max, BH: Giant Dragon Talon OX , Blade: Nexy Hannibal
FH: Tibhar Sinus Alpha Max, BH: Tibhar Sinus Alpha Max , Blade: Nexy Hannibal

Thanks, I'll try that.

Pushblocker wrote:

I think that you were just unlucky to receive a bad rubber. I find that it is very reliable rubber with which one can chop, block and hit. Some players use it with some sponge and are one of the best hitters and they are top players in the highest section of the association's pennant matches.
I have some of the 1615 DF rubbers which are about 20 years old and they can still be used as all the pips of these rubbers are still intact. Often, FL pips have tendency to break.

My 1615 OX started shedding pips during yesterday's club play.

Well, I poured half of the can of Acetone on the 1615 1.0 with sponge side face down and left it there for more than 2 days, no sign of separation and no way to separate the sponge from the top sheet. Unless the others, I think they glued them too well.
I gave up, can't steam them and can't chemically separate them, I guess I'll leave them alone and play with it.

Sometimes the sponge is nonporous, in which case you have to separate the sponge from the topsheet a little bit and then put some acetone directly between the sponge and the topsheet. It will dissolve the glue instantly. It is then a slow but sure process to pull on the sponge and keep on adding acetone.

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FH: Joola Express Ultra Max, BH: Giant Dragon Talon OX , Blade: Nexy Hannibal
FH: Tibhar Sinus Alpha Max, BH: Tibhar Sinus Alpha Max , Blade: Nexy Hannibal

Kees,

I have also tried Double Fish 1615 with sponge and Ox on a 729 Black Whirlwind defensive blade; I did not like it much as it was too slow for my liking. My pushes, chops and blocks often end up short barely making the net.

On an Adidas Avenger Carbon blade, the Double Fish 1615 Ox was wickedly deadly on blocks and pushes with spin reversal at its max. I had some minor control issues receiving very fast long serves and blocking strong killer loops and smashes. I paired it with a Yinhe Moon on FH.

Double Fish 1615 Ox is perfect on my 5 ply Tibhar E. Lebesson blade. Just the right blend of control and speed. I use Magna TX II on the FH. This is my main weapon for now.

I also have the 755 with 0.6 Mystery III sponge, but I found the 1615 Ox better suited to my push-blocking-twiddling style of play.

I've only been using 1615 Ox for a few months now and I intend to stick with it and improve my LPips game.

I did not find any quality issues with this rubber, not a single pip has been damaged so far.

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Joola Rosskopf Emotion, FH T05 red, BH Dignics 05 black

excellent lp..i use 1.0 close to the table play...im not a pushblocker, im an attacker, this rubber is perfect for control reversal game...i use it on red..good stuff....2200 us rating


blade: joola fire rossi fast
fh: donic traction ms soft black
bh: double fish 1615 red

is topsheet soft, flexible or hard, stiff?

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Butterfly Defence II / Victas Curl P1V 0.5mm / Tibhar Evolution MX-P 2.0mm -185g

Hi I just found this thread and looked at the presports.com link on first post. I am also wondering why now there is a "professional" version of 1615 and what the difference is