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Author:  haggisv [ 11 Feb 2014, 14:50 ]
Post subject:  Joola Badman vs Tibhar Dtecs (new version)

Can anyone compare the Joola Badman Reloaded (OX) to the Dtecs new version?

I was also wondering of the Badman Reloaded pips are as soft and dtecs pips?

Cheers!

Author:  Geddk [ 12 Feb 2014, 05:54 ]
Post subject:  Re: Joola Badman vs Tibhar Dtecs (new version)

I actually find that Badman pips are a little more soft than D.tecs.
D.tecs pips is a little broader than Badman.
For me Badman is much easier to use in hitting and blocking
but D.tec2 has a higher disturbance.

I think speed is about the same.
I think that Mcafee knows a lot about Badman.

Cheers

Geddk

Author:  CoachMcAfee [ 12 Feb 2014, 10:12 ]
Post subject:  Re: Joola Badman vs Tibhar Dtecs (new version)

The Joola Badman is an excellent long pips that plays much like the Grass D-tecs. It has the same feel (soft) and about the same speed. Not quite as much reversal but very close and much easier to control when attacking.

Coach McAfee

Author:  Pipsy [ 12 Feb 2014, 10:17 ]
Post subject:  Re: Joola Badman vs Tibhar Dtecs (new version)

In this thread viewtopic.php?f=11&t=12249 Pascal Tröger compares D'tecs with Badman. I still have my sheet of Badman unplayed in my closet. One day I will try it :P

Author:  haggisv [ 12 Feb 2014, 12:06 ]
Post subject:  Re: Joola Badman vs Tibhar Dtecs (new version)

Thank you guys, I will try it! :up: :up: :up:

Pipsy: Yes I read the thread where you mentioned you were going to try it...that was a long time ago! :lol: :lol: :lol:

Author:  Bulldog [ 13 Feb 2014, 00:57 ]
Post subject:  Re: Joola Badman vs Tibhar Dtecs (new version)

I am still getting my best results with DTecS but would like to add variety with LP attacking shots. Some posters seem to think Badman might be better than DTecS in this respect.

What type of shots can be played with this rubber which cannot be played so easily with DTecS?

Bulldog

Author:  CoachMcAfee [ 13 Feb 2014, 05:25 ]
Post subject:  Re: Joola Badman vs Tibhar Dtecs (new version)

The biggest upside to Badman over the D-tecs is its ability to better handle no-spin returns.

Coach McAfee

Author:  Bulldog [ 13 Feb 2014, 05:34 ]
Post subject:  Re: Joola Badman vs Tibhar Dtecs (new version)

Thanks for your post Coach. No spin balls are a real problem for me so I might give Badman a try at some stage.

Bulldog

Author:  JimWeiland [ 13 Feb 2014, 08:57 ]
Post subject:  Re: Joola Badman vs Tibhar Dtecs (new version)

Coach McAfee, how does the Joola Badman compare with the rubber you formerly used, Cropcircles? Are there any distinct advantages that the Badman has over that rubber? Which one is slower? I'm currently using Cropcircles, and liking it, but of course, I'm always on the lookout for other possibilities. Thanks!

Author:  CoachMcAfee [ 13 Feb 2014, 10:10 ]
Post subject:  Re: Joola Badman vs Tibhar Dtecs (new version)

Hi Jim,

Cropcircles is a great all-round long pip. It excels in control and attacking ability. Cropcircles blocks very well as it has a low throw but you need to have "active" hands to get the most out of the rubber. Badman has more reversal especially on passive blocks and has a softer feel more like D-tecs. For me both rubbers work great against U2000 level topspin players but against the higher level (more powerful loopers) I like the softer feel of the Badman. Like all OX long pips these rubbers are very blade dependent and you need to find the right combination that works for your personal style of play.

Coach Mac

Author:  PipBull [ 13 Feb 2014, 11:21 ]
Post subject:  Re: Joola Badman vs Tibhar Dtecs (new version)

Coach - Do you think the badman paired with my timo boll w7 work well?

Author:  CoachMcAfee [ 13 Feb 2014, 13:10 ]
Post subject:  Re: Joola Badman vs Tibhar Dtecs (new version)

It is almost impossible to give good advice to anyone that I have never seen play regarding equipment. So much depends on your style of play, and your personal set of skills. All long pips are very blade dependent. Badman plays a lot like D-techs so if you have ever try D-techs on your blade you would find the Badman very similar.

If you are going to the US Open this year, look me up at the Joola Booth and we can discuss your equipment needs.

Coach Mac

Author:  haggisv [ 14 Mar 2014, 20:24 ]
Post subject:  Re: Joola Badman vs Tibhar Dtecs (new version)

Just got sheets of Badman in (in the shop), and noticed that it is a Tensor and has a glue sheet attached. I wonder if it does have some tension inbuilt via the glue sheet, which the old Dtecs used to have? :o

Author:  Geddk [ 14 Mar 2014, 20:44 ]
Post subject:  Re: Joola Badman vs Tibhar Dtecs (new version)

haggisv wrote:
Just got sheets of Badman in (in the shop), and noticed that it is a Tensor and has a glue sheet attached. I wonder if it does have some tension inbuilt via the glue sheet, which the old Dtecs used to have? :o


Yes, I think so.
I did rip glue-sheet off though.
I have an 0x red.

Actually, I find Badman better for my kind of style
really offensive play with BH, and when forced,
chop-chop style.
Sad, that Badman isn't made originally with 0.5 mm sponge like Octopus.

Badman is highly recommended by me!!
It is a rather expensive LP though :cash: :n:

Cheers
Geddk

Author:  haggisv [ 14 Mar 2014, 21:34 ]
Post subject:  Re: Joola Badman vs Tibhar Dtecs (new version)

Geddk wrote:
Sad, that Badman isn't made originally with 0.5 mm sponge like Octopus.

Yes, and neither is Dtecs, which is no coincidence I think. Perhaps it's too hard to make a Tensor sponge so thin?
The Octopus is not a Tensors, which may be the difference...

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