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Hi folks,

My team mate who is a kind of a classical defender use the following equipment:
- Blade Yasaka Sweeper
- FH Friendship 729 FX 2,1mm
- BH Donic Piranja Formula Tec 1,2mm

He want´s to try a diferent long pimple with thiner sponge.

So the question is:
should he try TSP Curl P1r since this rubber can eventually do a beter job for this classical defense style? If so which will be beter 0x or 0,5mm?
Or any other sugestion?

Thanks

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Blade: Butterfly Mazunov to Donic Applegreen Senso V2
FH: Donic Acuda Blue P1 turbo 2.0mm/max
BH: looking for the best long pip
Style: something like Fabian AKerstrom

Hi again,

Since he want to put a lot of spin on his chops i supose the Curl P1r with 0,5mm would do a beter job. Will it be more dificult to use than his Piranja? Is there other rubber who can do the job? Any sugestion would be very nice!

Best regards

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Blade: Butterfly Mazunov to Donic Applegreen Senso V2
FH: Donic Acuda Blue P1 turbo 2.0mm/max
BH: looking for the best long pip
Style: something like Fabian AKerstrom

I don't know if the P1-R is the right kind of deal for him. He's used to fast pips with built-in glue effect (like the Piranja TEC). Take into account that the P1-R is slower than those kind of pips and he's going to use it in a thin sponge, he'll be having a lot of problem getting the ball back over the net. If he wants more control (I suppose that's what he's looking for), he might want to try the thick sponged version of the P1-R (be it 1.0mm - slower and more controlled - or 1.5mm - a tad slower in the shot game and a tad more control).

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My blog on being a LP defender beyond 2000 USATT and the pips discrimination that comes along with that

The principla idea is to give more backspin with the pimple by himself. Someone has tell him than Curl P1R with 1,0mm is very dificult to control and he should try something below that!
By the coments i supose than the P1R is much more slower than Piranja TEC!?

So if its true than it will be slower and 1,0mm is more dificult to control is there any sugestion, like another pimple? or something else from TSP? it seem´s than DONIC don´t have somthing beter!?!

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Blade: Butterfly Mazunov to Donic Applegreen Senso V2
FH: Donic Acuda Blue P1 turbo 2.0mm/max
BH: looking for the best long pip
Style: something like Fabian AKerstrom

If he can control the Piranja, then he can control the P1-R. The Piranja, like the P1-R, is already a difficult pip to use.

The 1.0mm P1-R will result in the same amount of backspin than the Piranja, but the player needs to put more effort into it (i.e. have to have more technique himself) to create the same amount of backspin. The advantages are the pip being slower, being more controlled and having a wider range of spin manipulation. If he would go to the 1.5 mm P1-R, he would get the speed of the Piranja (but slower in the short game), more control and having even a wider range of spin manipulation in comparison with the 1.0mm version. The backspin is still very heavy.

If he would go to a 0.5mm P1-R, he would lose backspin instead of gaining some, but only if he has an active pips technique. If he's more passive with his pips, he 'll gain backspin by going to the thin sponged P1-R.

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There's always stuff to improve!

My blog on being a LP defender beyond 2000 USATT and the pips discrimination that comes along with that

Wouldn't dtecs be a more similar rubber to piranja than p1r? That is if he wants similar feel...

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-Teddy

Dtecs doesn't feel (and play) similar to the P1-R at all. The Piranja is closer to the P1-R than DTecs.

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There's always stuff to improve!

My blog on being a LP defender beyond 2000 USATT and the pips discrimination that comes along with that

Since the new ball is coming in jully and people are telling than long pimple players wont be able to play with sucess, should it be the right time to use the CURL p1R? or should he (my team mate) or all of us be searching for something who could antecipate this PVC ball? If so what could be the alternative? Or should be all change to something like anti rubbers?

Best regards

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Blade: Butterfly Mazunov to Donic Applegreen Senso V2
FH: Donic Acuda Blue P1 turbo 2.0mm/max
BH: looking for the best long pip
Style: something like Fabian AKerstrom

Until the official plastic ball comes out and everyone is actually playing with it, no one can claim with certainty that long pip players will have less success. Everyone is only guessing. I wouldn't get drastic and start changing your style or what you play for now.

Ugh, uncertainty is the worst though

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VKM
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