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PostPosted: 22 May 2015, 04:00 
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I have the Agenda OX from 2 weeks.
This is the best long pips rubber for chopping I ever tried.


Agree that it's great for chopping. I just couldn't block or attack with it very effectively, however.

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PostPosted: 29 May 2015, 14:39 
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Is Agenda ox faster than the new Dtecs ox?

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PostPosted: 29 May 2015, 22:16 
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I haven't tried the new dtechs ox but the agenda ox is NOT a fast lp.
The pimples are soft and with low friction.


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PostPosted: 30 May 2015, 02:49 
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Agree on that. I also haven't tried the new D.techs, but the Spinlord Agenda is quite slow.

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PostPosted: 30 May 2015, 02:57 
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Thanks for the info. I'll try Agenda then, I find dtecs a little too fast on a defplay.

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PostPosted: 30 May 2015, 03:00 
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You should know that they're very different. D.techs is primarily meant for close-to-the-table blocking. Agenda is primarily meant for chopping, at which it truly excels. From my experience, it's not great for blocking or attacking.

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PostPosted: 30 May 2015, 03:11 
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I kinda play at the table and off :)
in the video, it looks like a good all round pip, with good blocking, which is what I need.

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PostPosted: 30 May 2015, 03:38 
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I also play both at and away (primarily focus on chopping but block when I'm close to the table), and I didn't find Agenda effective for blocking or attacking. It's always possible something about my technique was the problem, but I don't have that issue with my current setup, so ....

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PostPosted: 30 May 2015, 05:55 
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I agree. I find Agenda nothing special for blocking, that's still doable but meh... there are better pimples for that in my opinion.
I had the dawei 388d and that was better for blocking... nastier blocks but it's not my game...
I'm a chopper and I have to remark how unique is chopping with Agenda... chopping is so easy with this lp... and dangerous for the opponent at the same time!
The only bad thing if I have to find one... because the low friction I can impart very little variations on the ball... this means I have to work really hard to win a skilled well-minded player who knows perfectly how lp works...
Here a photo of my Agenda
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Does anybody have experience with this with 1,0 mm sponge ?
I can see that most are talking about the ox version.
Could really use a alternative to Dtechs that hits better :lol:

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I have now tried the Agenda Black in 1,0.
It is the best hitting lp that I have ever tried - and still a pretty good chopping rubber.
Coming from Dtechs 1,2 I will just have to adjust to the lower speed, my chops landed a Little shorter than usual.
During practice i found that i could hit both : US NS TS balls with the lp, i have never tried that before :devil:
Just have to see if it will keep working out great after the first few weeks :lol:

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G4gxS4JGUbI

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wqNho4N64gQ

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It looks slow in red which I like,do you know how does the black compare?

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dazzler wrote:
It looks slow in red which I like,do you know how does the black compare?


I don't know. I didn't try

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