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PostPosted: 11 Mar 2015, 02:34 
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I'm interested on how soft this pip is compared to Sternenfall... Is is softer or harder?

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Softer.

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I don't know about the Sternenfall, but Agenda is definitely a little softer than Dornenglanz and less tacky.

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PostPosted: 12 Mar 2015, 08:22 
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Softer sounds good.. will probably order a sheet of Agenda..

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Pushblocker wrote:
Softer sounds good.. will probably order a sheet of Agenda..


Knowing how you play, it deserve a try.

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Softer sounds good.. will probably order a sheet of Agenda..


Knowing how you play, it deserve a try.

I will post a update once I'll get it! Ordered a red and black sheet OX

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I tried it in ox on a Victas Koji Matsushita för 5 minutes today. I am not a LP blocker. But I fou d it very easy to control for being in ox. Blocking was ok but not much reversal on passive blocks. I did not do much of chopping movement when I blocked though.

Then I tried chopping from distance. Very good! It is rather grippy. Kind of like Feint Long II actually. I could easily chop spinny loops and place the chops low and controlled. But I did not try it against a real offensive player with good loops. It felt as I could put some spin of my own on the ball at chopping, but I might be wrong. I will try it more later but it will take a few weeks until I can try it more extensively. But slow and controlable with a little grip is the summary (like the others have said).

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In my opinion Agenda is not a blocking rubber. It's quite allround, but works best with chopping. Tried some balls today with sponge, makes chopping even nicer, and attacks a bit easier. Blocking game over the table gets harder, though.

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Knorben wrote:
In my opinion Agenda is not a blocking rubber. It's quite allround, but works best with chopping. Tried some balls today with sponge, makes chopping even nicer, and attacks a bit easier. Blocking game over the table gets harder, though.


I disagree. Blocking with LP is my game for many years and Agenda is very easy and good for that too. I changed from Dornenglanz to Agenda because Agenda is easier on block with little less reversing, but more possibilities to block short and well placed.

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Capoblanco wrote:
Knorben wrote:
In my opinion Agenda is not a blocking rubber. It's quite allround, but works best with chopping. Tried some balls today with sponge, makes chopping even nicer, and attacks a bit easier. Blocking game over the table gets harder, though.


I disagree. Blocking with LP is my game for many years and Agenda is very easy and good for that too. I changed from Dornenglanz to Agenda because Agenda is easier on block with little less reversing, but more possibilities to block short and well placed.


I certainly will provide my input once I'll get to test it.. It might be 2 - 3 weeks from now until I'll receive the rubber as I ordered from overseas...

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Capoblanco wrote:
Knorben wrote:
In my opinion Agenda is not a blocking rubber. It's quite allround, but works best with chopping. Tried some balls today with sponge, makes chopping even nicer, and attacks a bit easier. Blocking game over the table gets harder, though.


I disagree. Blocking with LP is my game for many years and Agenda is very easy and good for that too. I changed from Dornenglanz to Agenda because Agenda is easier on block with little less reversing, but more possibilities to block short and well placed.


Well the reason I don't think Agenda is a blocking rubber specifically is because it has so little reversal when you hit passive strokes. I kinda think it's an allround LP rubber, just a bit more geared towards chopping than the Dornenglanz (which for me is great over the table).

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Knorben wrote:
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Knorben wrote:
In my opinion Agenda is not a blocking rubber. It's quite allround, but works best with chopping. Tried some balls today with sponge, makes chopping even nicer, and attacks a bit easier. Blocking game over the table gets harder, though.


I disagree. Blocking with LP is my game for many years and Agenda is very easy and good for that too. I changed from Dornenglanz to Agenda because Agenda is easier on block with little less reversing, but more possibilities to block short and well placed.


Well the reason I don't think Agenda is a blocking rubber specifically is because it has so little reversal when you hit passive strokes. I kinda think it's an allround LP rubber, just a bit more geared towards chopping than the Dornenglanz (which for me is great over the table).

Reversal depends a lot on how early someone blocks a ball. I take it right off the bounce which usually creates more reversal. Furthermore, the stickyness wears off eventually, especially if you do a lot of multiball training..

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I certainly will provide my input once I'll get to test it.. It might be 2 - 3 weeks from now until I'll receive the rubber as I ordered from overseas...

Hello! Have you tried the Agenda pips?


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Pushblocker wrote:
Reversal depends a lot on how early someone blocks a ball. I take it right off the bounce which usually creates more reversal. Furthermore, the stickyness wears off eventually, especially if you do a lot of multiball training..


Sure, I just think that whatever Agenda does for you in the blocking game, Dornenglanz does better. Personal opinions and whatnot etc etc :)

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JJ_OO wrote:
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I certainly will provide my input once I'll get to test it.. It might be 2 - 3 weeks from now until I'll receive the rubber as I ordered from overseas...

Hello! Have you tried the Agenda pips?

Not yet but will try it for the first time this Tuesday..

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