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 Post subject: Zeus, Magic 23, 66
PostPosted: 17 Nov 2016, 16:20 
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Anyone know about these?

https://www.aliexpress.com/item/2-Pcs-l ... 32275.html

The Three Sword Zeus is still legal, the other two are not in the LARC. Probably something "left over from the old days", made obsolete by the rules, like Yung 63-9A "mushroom pips".

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$5-6 a sheet, sold in packs of two. Might be worth trying for fun, if nothing else. The Magic 66 looks like really BIG pips. The mushroom pips, by the way, was disappointing - it plays just like hardbat.

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 Post subject: Re: Zeus, Magic 23, 66
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I'm playing Waran 2.0 FH/Zeus ox BH on Sword Subdue for 3 months during championship season in an Austrian Subleague. The stuff really helps me to create a 'non-liked' game for the opponent as you're able to impose a very strange and difficult spin to your's opponent kind of reaction. You only has to wait a little bit till the ball gets higher for hitting it by FH/BH . Each of my opponents complained the stuff to be ...fullshit !
Imho the rubber seems to be much more effective for an active long pips pressing game than a lot of LP-rubbers (Pogo,Ktl Stranger, Dornenglanz etc...) in particularly for preparing a strong offensive game !

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 Post subject: Re: Zeus, Magic 23, 66
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Blade: Palio TCT
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Thanks to the better-than-expected Yinhé 955 and the reviews here and at Noppen-Test I've ordered a sheet of Three Sword Zeus as well, for less than $5.
I hope the rubber with sponge is not that light as I've found the 755 to be too light for the TCT-setup.

I expect it to arrive over 3 weeks but I don't think I will be able to use it at the regional championship event early in January. It probably has to wait for the spring-season championships.

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 Post subject: Re: Zeus, Magic 23, 66
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Even cheaper

Going to try one of these too.


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 Post subject: Re: Zeus, Magic 23, 66
PostPosted: 15 Nov 2017, 11:09 
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I've got some OX and 0.6 on order. Will report back in a month or so when they arrive from China..


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 Post subject: Re: Zeus, Magic 23, 66
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Our (german) review of the Zeus: https://youtu.be/CcdmLuW2_Dw

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 Post subject: Re: Zeus, Magic 23, 66
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Based on what I saw it looks underwhelming, am I right?


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 Post subject: Re: Zeus, Magic 23, 66
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Blade: Palio TCT
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I did use the Zeus 0.5mm on Palio WAY-003 on thursday and it did feel quite good, control was o.k. and near-table action was promising. I've tested Kokutaku 119, 110, Dawei 388D-1 and FS 755 Mystery with this blade and none of them did work that well here. Afterwards I've changed the CJ8000 40-42° on the forehand with the Light&Fast 38-41° and it may turn out to be a useful racket, after all. Weight is +-160grams in total.

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 Post subject: Re: Zeus, Magic 23, 66
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@Pumpa you are right - the Zeus is very difficult to play, has a low control. It's very fast while touching the ball frontally and very slow while hitting the ball tangentially.

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 Post subject: Re: Zeus, Magic 23, 66
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@pumpa,
I'm sorry to say you don't have right, the vid of croudy doesn't reflect the appropriate playing-style to make sense vs opponents. In my opinion you have to play according to the playing styles of Pamela Song -> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L6qGccyOVBg or the Austrian League Player Amir Achmed -> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_oZq8_On8i0
Both of them are playing Pips (P.Song) or Anti (A.Achmed), their playing style is agressive over the backside wherein about two thirds of the table beeing covered by the BH (Long Pips or Anti) !!
It's a matter of fact that the stuff cannot be assigned as a so-called 'easy to play pimple rubber' i.e. you should count on lot of time (i believe that for at least a couple of weeks if not months) you have to spend in learning advantages/disadvantages. Further on it's very important playing the correct blade (with hard stop). I prefer Sword Subdue as some kind of combination wood where the front side is hardwood and back side is softwood.

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 Post subject: Re: Zeus, Magic 23, 66
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Obviously and I'm glad to see it works out for you, but looking at that video it seemed really hard to play, even for a great pips player like that guy. I was hoping this would be a good pips rubber to start with and I'm pretty sure it's not. But I'll try it myself when it arrives!


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 Post subject: Re: Zeus, Magic 23, 66
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Hi @pumpa,
the best way forming yours own mind is to give it a go regardless it works for you or not. If not you've made a lot of experiences deciding yours own style of playing in the future.
Greetings from Austria and all the best !

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 Post subject: Re: Zeus, Magic 23, 66
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Well, bummer. After 2+ months, my shipment from an Aliexpress seller has been deemed lost in transit and I'm to get a refund.. and no Zeus LPs to test. But I do have a new sheet of Dr Neubauer Killer Pro 1.3mm that I'll be testing next week!

UPDATE: Zeus LP order from China finally arrived after 2.5 months so I'll have some test results to post soon. Dr Neubauer Killer Pro 1.3mm was a disappointment.. unexpectedly slow.


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 Post subject: Re: Zeus, Magic 23, 66
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In addition: I've changed from 'Sword Subdue' to 'LKT Toxic 5 - modified like custom blade ~ 75 g and the combination Zeus OX BH & Waran 2.0 FH works very fine for me. The first challenge last week was a tournament advertised for players ranked according to European TTR-level. In my group (7 players) I had the lowest rank of about TTR 1350 and could eliminate two players with even more than 1700 points, at last I failed against a guy with about 1800 points on difference in the 5th set. With my doubles partner we could also win the double competiton of our group.
Résumé: Zeus on Toxic 5 works pretty considerable especially upsetting the opponent to let him making the bottom for attacking with the short pips - softly, softly, catchee monkey !!!!

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