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PostPosted: 28 Jun 2017, 22:53 
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Our long pimple-out rubber SpinLord Strahlkraft is quite different from other rubbers.
A new Polymer has been added to the rubber compound which makes the rubber slower, more tacky, more elastic and even more dangerous.
Also the shape of the pimples is new. The pimples have a very large slope at the bottom, but otherwise are straight. The pimple tops are flat and slightly sticky.
Strahlkraft is our suggestion for advanced players who prefer a modern very versatile style of defending. This rubber can be played most effective close to the table, but you can do so much more with it then just blocking and chopping. Strahlkraft is not easy to control, but it can create much more different kinds of rotation then other rubbers.
Strahlkraft will not only totally confuse your opponent, but also enables a spectacular new style of playing. The future of table-tennis begins now!
Speed: 3.5 Control: 4.5 Deception: 10
What can you say about this rubber?


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PostPosted: 29 Jun 2017, 03:12 
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Interesting. Says it's available in July. I wonder why "more tacky" and "slightly sticky" is good for close-to-the-table blocking. You'd think that would minimize reversal. I guess we'll see ....

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not if you chop block it, i would say...than it is preferable to be tacky so you can add more rotation to the incoming spin...ihmo...

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Interesting. Says it's available in July.

I think that's about to be revised and delayed for a while, due to some production issues.

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Just ordered some in Ox and 1.0 mm. Can't wait.


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BrisbaneBased wrote:
Just ordered some in Ox and 1.0 mm. Can't wait.


Have you tried it yet?

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Just ordered some in Ox and 1.0 mm. Can't wait.

Tried it yet?

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Very curious


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I got to play three hours today with Strahlkraft Ox Red. Rarely does one want to put too much faith in the hyped up language of marketing. However, I find the description to be very accurate except for one point I will mention later. Like that the red Ox is not transparent and it covers lettering on the blade well (I am using TSP 8.5 carbon balsa now for 5 years. It is OFF + blade). It is slightly tacky and seems elastic and dangerous. I was worried it was more like a hitting LP like TSP Curl P1-R before I tested it. It does hit and I could use a loop like stroke with it on the forehand with little adjustment. Because I use such a fast blade I could not determine if the Strahlkraft was slower than the Talon that has been my main LP for about 4 years. I am not much of a chopper but was able to force the ball into the net by the opponent usually on their attempt to return my second chopped hit. I was surprised at the amount of spin reversal I could generate. The rubber bounces very low (similar if not lower than GD Talon National Team OX). Vertical, diagonal and horizontal brushing of the ball was a breeze. It seems easy to change rotation (or dead balls) at will. I personally disagree with the marketing that states, "Strahlkraft is not easy to control" I found it very easy. Actually, I was amazed! Easier to control from the get-go than Pogo or Easy P. I spent a year before I felt comfortable with my control of Talon OX. This rubber seems to do it all. They rate it 10 for disruption...maybe 11 is more like it. I eagerly await reviews from other forum members. I will try it out against many member of the Chattanooga, TN USA club this Saturday.

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Can anyone compare it to Dornenglanz?

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I got to play three hours today with Strahlkraft Ox Red. Rarely does one want to put too much faith in the hyped up language of marketing. However, I find the description to be very accurate except for one point I will mention later. Like that the red Ox is not transparent and it covers lettering on the blade well (I am using TSP 8.5 carbon balsa now for 5 years. It is OFF + blade). It is slightly tacky and seems elastic and dangerous. I was worried it was more like a hitting LP like TSP Curl P1-R before I tested it. It does hit and I could use a loop like stroke with it on the forehand with little adjustment. Because I use such a fast blade I could not determine if the Strahlkraft was slower than the Talon that has been my main LP for about 4 years. I am not much of a chopper but was able to force the ball into the net by the opponent usually on their attempt to return my second chopped hit. I was surprised at the amount of spin reversal I could generate. The rubber bounces very low (similar if not lower than GD Talon National Team OX). Vertical, diagonal and horizontal brushing of the ball was a breeze. It seems easy to change rotation (or dead balls) at will. I personally disagree with the marketing that states, "Strahlkraft is not easy to control" I found it very easy. Actually, I was amazed! Easier to control from the get-go than Pogo or Easy P. I spent a year before I felt comfortable with my control of Talon OX. This rubber seems to do it all. They rate it 10 for disruption...maybe 11 is more like it. I eagerly await reviews from other forum members. I will try it out against many member of the Chattanooga, TN USA club this Saturday.


Did you try pure passive blocking with it? It is advertised as tacky, which should make ACTIVE blocking (i.e., chop-blocking) very effective but PASSIVE blocking not very effective (meaning, low reversal and potential pop-ups on high-spin loops), whereas GD Talon is very good for passive blocking. What you think?

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Passive blocking is a little less effective than GD Talon OX from my first few hours of practice. I had to adjust racket angle(less opened) to be able to get a good return as the ball had a tendency to pop up. Need more practice. The ball can be picked up and held over one second on the label/brand name section of the rubber. I could occasionally pick up the ball with the pips for a fraction of a second. Wonder how this will be after hours of play? I was able to punch block with a slight upward wrist motion very effectively from the BH. This seems to be a different sort of LP. It hits like crazy with disruption. Second chops usually go into the net by the opponent. Seems to hit like a Dawei 388 D-1 OX on a fast blade. I am pulling out a slower blade I have not used in 9 years.. a Firewall + ( ALL+) to see how the Strahlkraft responds. It seemed to have somewhat less spin reversal on passive blocking than GD Talon OX..but not that much less. Of note was that the amount of reversal seemed to be of differing speeds with basically the same hit. More practice needed here to. I will also compare to Dornenglanz in the near future.

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I found Strahlkraft to be a bit slower on most shots made in a more passive mode than Dornenglanz. Also, Strahlkraft OX seems very insensitive to spin more so than GD Talon OX with Dornenglanz coming in third. Note that I do not generally push service return but rather attack with the LP. Tomorrow I will hit with the Firewall + with Shrahlkraft OX.

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If there's anyone who can speak German and can translate the general gist of this, I'd be grateful:


Just from watching the video, it seems consistent with my guess that the rubber isn't that good for passive blocking (ball seems to pop up), but much better for chop-blocking and other active strokes.

Also, this guy is always super-skilled with LP, and I think he was making a much higher number of errors than usual with this rubber, so either he was having an off day or else Spinlord's warning that the rubber is for advanced players and not the easiest to control is true.

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