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Author:  ModernDef [ 04 Nov 2017, 23:09 ]
Post subject:  BTY Joo Sae Hyuk

Anyone been using this blade for a while and have thoughts on what LPs go well with it, mainly for chopping and suprise attacks. I've got one but still thinking what to put on it. Please also leave a little info on why it works well.

Thanks :Chop: :topspin: :Chop: :topspin:

Author:  Danthespearton HQ [ 05 Nov 2017, 08:17 ]
Post subject:  Re: BTY Joo Sae Hyuk

*Cough* TSP Curl P1-r

*Cough cough*

Author:  Lorre [ 06 Nov 2017, 02:24 ]
Post subject:  Re: BTY Joo Sae Hyuk

P1-R, P4, Feint III, Dtecs: the chopper's LPs.

Author:  deva sarjan [ 06 Nov 2017, 19:27 ]
Post subject:  Re: BTY Joo Sae Hyuk

also
Donic Piranja Formula 1.0 mm. :up:
...and why?.. because I experienced to play with that combination and my feeling was '' oh, this is it...'' ...it was ''good'' for chopping with high control and backspin...very ''easy'' to attack with, easier to use than a Grass Dtecs and as deceptive as...
Piranja 1.0 mm.is also very good on Gionis Carbon def.
And the most deception and backspin on Joo Se Hyuk blade is a Curl P1r with 1.o or 1.5 sponge.

Author:  ModernDef [ 06 Nov 2017, 19:44 ]
Post subject:  Re: BTY Joo Sae Hyuk

Deva sarjan what's your setup?

Author:  deva sarjan [ 06 Nov 2017, 19:57 ]
Post subject:  Re: BTY Joo Sae Hyuk

Nittaku Tiluna, Tenergy 05 1.7 mm. Xiom Vega LPO 1.0 mm black
Joo Se Hyuk, T64 1.9, 1.6 Grass Dtecs black
Joo Se Hyuk, Rakza X 2.1, 1.0 mm Curl p1r black
Joo Se Hyuk, T64 1.9, 1.5 mm Curl p1r black
Gionis Carbon Def, 1.5 mm Xiom Yanus Def red, 1.0 mm. Piranja

Author:  RevanII [ 17 Nov 2017, 23:43 ]
Post subject:  Re: BTY Joo Sae Hyuk

Lorre wrote:
P1-R, P4, Feint III, Dtecs: the chopper's LPs.


Precisely... i'll try to quckly compare them being the most objective i can. I refer to 1.0 mm sponge
My scale: bad, decent, good, great
I won't talk about chopping because they are all great in their way... of course the ones with most reversal give spinnier chops on slow spinny loops, the ones better at producing spin instead are able to produce more spin on dead balls.

- p1 is used by many professional players in 1.0/1.5 mm... decent attack (not easy to do but effective), it has decent ability to put your own spin on the ball....and good reversal.... not the easiest to use tough, expecially at the table, you have to find your own way, some use it more like classic lp using reversal (swipes, fast no spin pushes...), others almost like an inverted (spinny pushes/cuts...)...
- p4 is good at producing your own spin, so easier to do spinny pushes and easier to attack, but less "disruptive"... decent reversal still
- FIII is almost unique among lps...it's like a slow inverted with much better consistency when chopping, so great ability to create your own spin and very easy to attack with. It has very little reversal. Very slow overall. (The best to adapt to for people who comes from and inverted backand)
- D.tecs is the fastest and less grippy, great reversal, most difficult to produce your own spin. Attack is devastating but not easy.
- You can add Feint II to the list, it's probably the most allround pip... decent-good at everything, medium speed. If you want a pip that can really do "everything".

All work well on the joo, in particular it enables good attack. Defense is high quality but the blade is fast/less forgiving compared to most defensive blades.

Note that everything i said applies to a player who has decent tecnique and spent time to adapt to each rubber... many people for example would say that "p1 can't produce any spin of its own" or that "FIII is bad at chopping 'cos it has no reversal"... it's like to put tenergy 05 max on the bat the first day you enter a TT court and say tgy is terrible at looping.
But above all to me what matters the most is personal feeling you have with the rubber, how you feel your "touch" with using it... which of course relates a lot to the tecnique you use...

But be sure: with each rubber above you can build a high level table tennis game. The hardest part of course in learning the tecnique for the shots... and practice it many hours ;)

Author:  Alberto Martínez [ 24 Nov 2017, 12:14 ]
Post subject:  Re: BTY Joo Sae Hyuk

ModernDef wrote:
Anyone been using this blade for a while and have thoughts on what LPs go well with it, mainly for chopping and suprise attacks. I've got one but still thinking what to put on it. Please also leave a little info on why it works well.

Thanks :Chop: :topspin: :Chop: :topspin:


I've used the BTY too and the koi matsushita off (pretty similar blades) te perfect long pimple for both blades its definitely TSP Curl P1R (the ling pips that JSH use) they are perfect for the joo and koji Why? because these two blades even if they are categorized as DEFENSIVE, they are fast as hell jajaja, the TSP is a medium fast when attacking, medium fast but very controlled, if you combine this with the joo blade its amazing. I made counter attacks even to loops and drive with the TSP, many players recommend Tibhar grass dctess but its too fast and uncontrolled. Hope this answer help u.:D

Author:  Ndragon [ 20 Jan 2018, 08:39 ]
Post subject:  Re: BTY Joo Sae Hyuk

What about with the original Victas Koji Matsushita blade. How would you rate those pips on that blade, also add in 388D if you can :D

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