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Been using P1R for a while now, but it seem it’s always missing something, not sure how to describe it , has any members try both ? Please let me know is it worth switching to Feint ll from P1R, and what does Feint ll do better than P1R? I been using 1.0 mm

Thanks

There are better people to answer this question I'm sure, but I'll give it a go. It's been a while since I played Feint II, from what I recall they chop differently. P1R allows heavier chop from the first stroke, Feint is different, in that it doesn't give you that first ball as heavy as P1R. With Feint you can add more spin on following chops, to get to the same level as P1R. So it not only feels different chopping, but the spin you can achieve on the first chop is not as heavy. This is from my perspective at my level and with the 40 mm balls. Haven't used it with the 40+ balls, so I can't comment on current differences. Both should be good for the occasional attack, here P1R should be more inverted like, as you get more potential for spin when attacking. You should be able to vary the spin with either, they are very versatile choices, I thought Feint II was easier to use. It's a relatively expensive experiment, as any rubber from Butterfly would be.

Hopefully, someone will be able to give you some more recent info.

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Thank you, not sure I agreed with P1R act like inverted . I guess the next thing to do is buy a Feint ll,

Sorry, didn't mean to imply that P1R acts like inverted, just trying to get the point across that it has a greater ability to impart spin (compared to Feint II). I should really be careful what/how I write these things.

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Donic Waldner World Champion 89 FL; Donic BlueStar A2 (Red) Max; DMS Firestorm (Black) 1.8

Thank you again, I get what you were saying , been using P1 for a bit , but I wanted to see if Feint 2 is more forgiving and produce the same amount of spin !

Search inthe forum there are a ton of comparisons between all TSP and Butterfly pips...

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