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What long pips gives players the most trouble? From Zeropong, I ain't payin 200$ for a sheet of rubber

RITC 755 long pips OX

I play vs a guy using that rubber. He has great control. He sends me some really strange balls.

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Panda Drive / 4H Xiom Sigma Pro 2 2.0 / BH Xiom Omega IV Elite Max / Play right-handed
XVT balsa carbon 10mm / 4H Xiom Sigma Pro 2 2.0 / BH Globe 979 Long Pips OX / Play Left-handed shakehand
Stiga Def Wood / 4H Xiom Sigma Pro 2 2.0 / BH GD CC LP OX .. Play Left-handed
Cpen SOS Wood / 4H 729 802-40 2.0 / BH GD Talon use righthanded shakehand grip
HARDBAT / Shakehand Hock 3 ply / Friendship Dr Evil OX .. Play Right-handed

Thank you. I've read about long pips, and the wobble effect, etc. Does this rubber do that?

Yes very good wobble

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Panda Drive / 4H Xiom Sigma Pro 2 2.0 / BH Xiom Omega IV Elite Max / Play right-handed
XVT balsa carbon 10mm / 4H Xiom Sigma Pro 2 2.0 / BH Globe 979 Long Pips OX / Play Left-handed shakehand
Stiga Def Wood / 4H Xiom Sigma Pro 2 2.0 / BH GD CC LP OX .. Play Left-handed
Cpen SOS Wood / 4H 729 802-40 2.0 / BH GD Talon use righthanded shakehand grip
HARDBAT / Shakehand Hock 3 ply / Friendship Dr Evil OX .. Play Right-handed

Any idea what blade he uses with his 755 long pips Loopover?

don't think there is any rubber that costs $200. the best LP that costs less than $15 is Bomb Talent, imo. It is as good or better than some pips 2-3 times its price. If you want something ~$20, try Dragon Talon or Dornenglanz.

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You will be surprised. He uses that ergonomic shaped blade sold at Zeropong.

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Panda Drive / 4H Xiom Sigma Pro 2 2.0 / BH Xiom Omega IV Elite Max / Play right-handed
XVT balsa carbon 10mm / 4H Xiom Sigma Pro 2 2.0 / BH Globe 979 Long Pips OX / Play Left-handed shakehand
Stiga Def Wood / 4H Xiom Sigma Pro 2 2.0 / BH GD CC LP OX .. Play Left-handed
Cpen SOS Wood / 4H 729 802-40 2.0 / BH GD Talon use righthanded shakehand grip
HARDBAT / Shakehand Hock 3 ply / Friendship Dr Evil OX .. Play Right-handed

SpinLord Dornenglanz and Bomb Talent very good both of the on plastic balls!

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Dtecs is clearly the most deceptive IMO, ans although it costs more than $20, it highly durable, much more durable than many Chinese LPs.

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It doesn't sound like you've used long pips before. If that's the case, I would go with a classic, cheap Chinese pip (like 755, 837, or 1615) with no sponge and just focus on learning how to control and use long pips. It's the tactics and techniques you employ that make pips tricky more than anything else. Once you've got a handle on things, you can start to focus more on discriminating between different types of pips...

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I've, quite recently started playing with a Dawei 388D and it seems to give back, more than average amount reversal, wobble, weird trajectories... This is not just my observation, but also the feedback received my several opponents, from different levels of play.

I've played with Dtecs (on a VKMO) too (I borrow a friend's, from time-to-time.. It's too expensive for me, to buy) ... To me it seems that the 388D gives-back better reversal than Dtecs, and same with weird-trajectories.... However, the Dtecs has that certain brake-effect, which I've not seen any other LP produce... It just seems to mess with the opponents timing... Also, for me, the Dtecs was better and more dangerous at Passive-Blocking...

I've heard quite a bit about Bomb Talent...but been dilly-dallying about ordering it, for quite a while...

How does it compare to LPs such as 388D-1, 388D, and Dtecs, in real-life playing scenarios (not just on-paper)