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Author:  flipper4pipper [ 12 Jan 2019, 19:17 ]
Post subject:  KTL Stranger 1.2mm tournament footage

I tend to attack too much, needed to chop and push more, guy I was facing (glasses) was about 1800, I was 1581, pips are red.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rqc2roIY3y4

Hard to film with a stationary, cheap camera.

Author:  pgpg [ 12 Jan 2019, 23:47 ]
Post subject:  Re: KTL Stranger 1.2mm tournament footage

You look pretty good there (and I'd put you above your current rating ;) ). Not sure if I 100% agree that you should attack less - kind of depends whether you are talking about this specific opponent or in general.

Playing style is a rather personal choice, and you need to have a certain mindset to play defensively, IMHO - you looked eager to attack, I thought.

Author:  nathanso [ 13 Jan 2019, 02:58 ]
Post subject:  Re: KTL Stranger 1.2mm tournament footage

I've used KTL Stranger 1.2mm and your video reminded me of its bounciness (for a sponged LP) which isn't surprising being that it's just about the thickest -- and easily most aggressive -- sponge you can get on an LP. Based on your playing style, i.e. close to the table; blocking; pick-hitting, I think you'd do better with OX LP.. something like Talon OX that would provide safe(r) serve returns while also forcing occasional pop-ups that you could attack with your big FH. In contrast, your Stranger 1.2mm had you making the pop-ups which your opponent was capitalizing on.

Author:  flipper4pipper [ 13 Jan 2019, 16:18 ]
Post subject:  Re: KTL Stranger 1.2mm tournament footage

Thanks for the follow up posts, I have tried Ox long pips in past with bad results but as a fellow EJ I'm always willing to punish myself more. Any leads on where I can buy Talon Ox online?

I have a sheet of Milkyway 955 .7mm sponge arriving Wednesday which I ordered from Amazon.

In 2007 I broke 2003 for one tournament, currently rated 1731.

Tried Aggressor and KO for about a year, now back long pips, DHS C8 1.0mm.

I picked C8 because it is a faster long pip and the Dr. Neubauer medium pips are definitely a lot faster than most long pip rubbers.

Curious side note about the Dr. Neubauer brand, they produce so many anti rubbers, that must sell but I haven't seen any frictionless anti players in California or Michigan. I should probably pose that observation in the Anti rubber section.


Pips for all!

Author:  nathanso [ 15 Jan 2019, 07:03 ]
Post subject:  Re: KTL Stranger 1.2mm tournament footage

Giant Dragon Talon OX: http://tabletennisonly.com/index.php?ma ... cts_id=595

Dr Neubauer's pips haven't been frictionless since the ITTF ban on such rubbers 10 years ago.

Author:  pgpg [ 15 Jan 2019, 07:09 ]
Post subject:  Re: KTL Stranger 1.2mm tournament footage

nathanso wrote:
Giant Dragon Talon OX: http://tabletennisonly.com/index.php?ma ... cts_id=595

Dr Neubauer's pips haven't been frictionless since the ITTF ban on such rubbers 10 years ago.


OP is talking about lack of frictionless anti players in CA and MI, I believe, and these are still legal (by some logic which I don't fully comprehend - LPs are bad, but anti is not?).

Author:  flipper4pipper [ 15 Jan 2019, 18:38 ]
Post subject:  Re: KTL Stranger 1.2mm tournament footage

Yep, I was referring to not seeing any, low, medium, or high players in this country playing with frictionless Anti's. My student pretty much retired after frictionless pips ban so I remember that event well. My luck, I've always played with grippy pips so the ban didn't effect my game much though I believe a less severe rule would have served just as well.

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