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Author: | martinspin [ 08 Sep 2009, 22:16 ] |
Post subject: | Springiness-ranking of the pips-necks |
Hey pips friends I often have the problem that a certain long-pips-rubber doesn't fit to a certain blade. So I began to look for the reason. One reason could be that the springiness of the pips-necks doesn't fit to the catapult of the blade. If I play with a fast blade and a rubber with fast and non-elastic pips-necks I have great problems to control the ball. So I guess, that it's better to use more (softer) bouncier pips necks with a fast blade, because the blade/ball-touch is longer and the control better. So I started an online survey to get infos of many pips players in terms of rating the pips-springiness. I would be great if many of you could rate his own long-pips rubber to get an objetive ranking. Follow this link to the survey ---> Survey Some results of the survey ---> Results (regularly updated) Cheers, Martin |
Author: | haggisv [ 08 Sep 2009, 22:49 ] |
Post subject: | Re: Springiness-ranking of the pips-necks |
That Survey link does not seem to work for me? Perhaps you need to be registered for it to work? |
Author: | martinspin [ 08 Sep 2009, 22:54 ] |
Post subject: | Re: Springiness-ranking of the pips-necks |
haggisv wrote: That Survey link does not seem to work for me? Perhaps you need to be registered for it to work? Now the correct links is there. |
Author: | GR [ 09 Sep 2009, 06:49 ] |
Post subject: | Re: Springiness-ranking of the pips-necks |
Martin wrote: Quote: It's better to use more (softer) bouncier pips necks with a fast blade, because the blade/ball-touch is longer and the control better. I think it is true that it's better to use more (softer) bouncier pips necks with a fast blade, because the blade/ball-touch is longer and the control better. Now, I understand the reason for the good control created by Friendship 837. |
Author: | martinspin [ 09 Sep 2009, 07:58 ] |
Post subject: | Re: Springiness-ranking of the pips-necks |
Hey GR GR wrote: I think it is true that it's better to use more (softer) bouncier pips necks with a fast blade, because the blade/ball-touch is longer and the control better. Now, I understand the reason for the good control created by Friendship 837. Be carefull - 837 has medium-elastic pips-necks and should be play on a medium-bouncy blade |
Author: | GR [ 09 Sep 2009, 09:46 ] |
Post subject: | Re: Springiness-ranking of the pips-necks |
Thanks Martin for the advice about the usage of 837 (OX). How does it compare with Neptune (OX)? Do these two rubbers behave in a similar (or different) fashion? Does the colour of these rubbers affect their behaviour? |
Author: | Pushblocker [ 09 Sep 2009, 11:07 ] |
Post subject: | Re: Springiness-ranking of the pips-necks |
There's only one selection for SE7EN L.. There are 3 different versions of that rubber.. Some of the results seem a little off.. I find Kokutaku Tuple 911 fairly hard and not medium.. I also wouldn't put Meteor 8512 in the harder pips category.. I find that one fairly medium.. |
Author: | martinspin [ 09 Sep 2009, 14:59 ] |
Post subject: | Re: Springiness-ranking of the pips-necks |
Pushblocker wrote: There's only one selection for SE7EN L.. There are 3 different versions of that rubber.. Some of the results seem a little off.. I find Kokutaku Tuple 911 fairly hard and not medium.. I also wouldn't put Meteor 8512 in the harder pips category.. I find that one fairly medium.. The more people participate in the survey, the more accurate the result will hopefully be. I've updatet the results. Now 18 players have voted. |
Author: | Pushblocker [ 09 Sep 2009, 21:52 ] |
Post subject: | Re: Springiness-ranking of the pips-necks |
martinspin wrote: Pushblocker wrote: There's only one selection for SE7EN L.. There are 3 different versions of that rubber.. Some of the results seem a little off.. I find Kokutaku Tuple 911 fairly hard and not medium.. I also wouldn't put Meteor 8512 in the harder pips category.. I find that one fairly medium.. The more people participate in the survey, the more accurate the result will hopefully be. I've updatet the results. Now 18 players have voted. Great!! Was a great idea to create that survey! Schoene Gruesse in die Schweiz!! |
Author: | martinspin [ 10 Sep 2009, 00:57 ] |
Post subject: | Re: Springiness-ranking of the pips-necks |
Now date of 28 participants are evaluated |
Author: | tatlwai [ 10 Sep 2009, 02:53 ] |
Post subject: | Re: Springiness-ranking of the pips-necks |
Same rubber, so many different opinions. Looks like other than Grass D-Tech, everybody has a different evaluation on the springiness of the pips. |
Author: | martinspin [ 16 Sep 2009, 15:14 ] |
Post subject: | Re: Springiness-ranking of the pips-necks |
Hey pips freaks The survey seems to be finished. In addition I made my own ranking with more then 50 long pips rubbers. I get the results by comparing the springiness of the pips between the rubbers with my fingertips. The intetion of the ranking is to get "objective" infos about the long pips that helps to finde a suitable blade. My tests showed that soft and bouncy pips fit to faster blades and vice versa. Very springy Meteor 91-1 57 TT Master Punto 57 BTY Feint Soft 59 Donic Alligator 59 Springy Amsir Surprise 61 BTY AG 61 Double Fish 1615 61 Xiom Guillotine S 61 TSP Curl P3 Alpha R 63 Amsir Flutter 65 BTY FL II 65 DHS Cloud & Fog III 65 Joola Shark 65 Giant Dragon Meteorie 67 Milky Way Neptune 67 Tibhar Grass 67 Amsir Sensation 69 BTY FL III 69 DHS Cloud & Fog III 69 Giant Dragon Giant Long 69 Globe 979 69 Joola Octopus 69 Joola Orca 69 Juic Leggy R 69 TT Master Fireproof II 69 Mid-springy Donic Akkadi L2 71 Hallmark Frustration 71 Palio CK531A 71 Friendship 755 73 Meteor 9012 73 Tibhar Grass D.TecS 73 Tibhar Grass Ultra 73 TT Master Fireproof 73 Bomb Talent 75 DHS C-8 77 Hallmark Phoenix 77 Kokutaku 911 77 Tibhar Extra Long 77 TSP Curl P1-R 77 Dr. Neubauer Monster Classic 79 Meteor 71-2 79 Milky Way 955 79 Stiga Destroyer 79 Non-springy Dawei Saviga V 81 Donic Piranja FD-Tec 81 Dawei 388D-1 83 Friendship 837 83 Dr. Neubauer Boomerang Classic 85 Meteor 8512 85 Quo Qiu Miracle MG 85 Very non-springy Xi Ying 979 93 TSP Curl P-H 97 Hope, that could be helpfully, to find the right blade to your prefered rubbers. Don't forget that a pips rubber is only as good as it fits to the blade. |
Author: | GR [ 23 Sep 2009, 07:44 ] |
Post subject: | Re: Springiness-ranking of the pips-necks |
Martinspin, it may be good exercise to make a list of blades which will fit to the following types of long pimple rubbers: . Very springy . Springy . Mid-springy . Non-springy . Very non-springy |
Author: | martinspin [ 23 Sep 2009, 15:38 ] |
Post subject: | Re: Springiness-ranking of the pips-necks |
Hey Gr You're right! I've got many blades but of course not all of the common ones. Blades with a very low rebound who suits to very non-springy pips LKT Toxic3 (50) Yinhe 0980 (50) Donic Defplay Senso V3 (55) Nittaku JIE SCHOPP (55) Joola T. Hold Def (57) Tibhar Defense Plus (57) Blades with a low rebound who suits to non-springy pips BTY Primorac Classic OFF- (60) Stiga Tube Def (60) Dr. Neubauer Barricade Def (62) Zander Xtreme Control (64) LKT Toxic-5 (64) Stiga Bengtsson 70 (67) Zander Speed Changer Def (67) Blades with a mid-high rebound who suits to mid-springy pips BTY Boll Forte ST OFF (71) Joola Chen Weixing (71) Juic Euro-Chopper (71) Yinhe LQ-1 (74) Zander Crossfire Defence (74) Juic Eurocut (74) Stiga Allround WRB Oversized (74) Yinhe EC-13 (76) Yinhe Y-3 (79) Yinhe T-06 (79) Yinhe M-06 (79) Blades with a high rebound who suits to springy pips Andro Carbon SCS (81) BTY Joo Se Hyuk (81) BTY Korbel OFF (81) Yinhe TC-1 (81) Yinhe MC-3 (83) Yinhe T-07 (83) Yinhe M-04 (86) Yinhe TC-2 (86) Yinhe W-02 (86) Yinhe T-02 (86) Yinhe 2011 (88) Yinhe T-03 (88) Blades with a very high rebound who suits to very springy pips Yinhe W-05 (90) Yinhe K-4 (90) Yinhe T-04 (90) Yinhe T-08 (90) Yinhe W-03 (93) Yinhe K-1 (95) Yinhe T-05 (98) Yinhe T-11 (98) Yinhe T-01 (100) |
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