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hi folks!

i am looking for an alternative to the 802, because the 802 sometimes acts unpredictable leading to unforced errors. the sheet i am desiring, should be equally/similar in hardness or harder, should have little grip (=unaffected by spin) and should be similar or a bit slower in terms of speed..

1) any ideas besides spectol/spectol speed sponge?

2) how do spectol/spectol speed sponge compare to 802?

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Blade: Barna Original Triumph Forehand Yasaka Razka Po Backhand Der-Materialspezialist Störkraft 0.8
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DHS 651. Not tried 802, but I've a new sheet of 802.1 I've been trying it with. Slower, more down effect. There are various cheap version of 651 floating around with sponge from the glue era. get a good sheet from Japsko or similar

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Yasaka Dynamix 17
Tibhar Q 50
Butterfly Raystorm

Double Fish 820A. The sponge is quite hard though, typical chinese type sponge. You can get a sheet for $5 at Eacheng. There is also a version with a soft sponge available in Europe but it did not test it.

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Equipment:
OSP Ultimate, FH: Dr. Neubauer Dominance Spin Hard 2.1, BH: Dr. Neubauer Troublemaker 0.5
YouTube channel: "AntiRules"

Woah, woah, woah. Back the train up before you go buying another SP rubber.

You have to expand on that "unpredictable leading to unforced errors" comment. I want to hear more.

My first impression after hearing that? Could be a technique part on your end but who knows. Just would hate for you to spend more $ on another SP and what do you know??? Same "unpredictable leading to unforced errors" issues.

I think 802 is one of the more reliable, consistent rubbers around from what I've tried.

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Stiga Clipper Classic
FH - TSP Spectol Red 2.0
BH - Dawei 388D-a 1.5

is this the hard sponge version?
http://www.eacheng.net/index.php?act=detail&ID=1561



its not a technique issue. its too fast in 1.5 on my gergely blade..

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Blade: Barna Original Triumph Forehand Yasaka Razka Po Backhand Der-Materialspezialist Störkraft 0.8
http://www.instagram.com/dragontattooguy

Okay fair enough. That blade must be awful fast for 1.5

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Stiga Clipper Classic
FH - TSP Spectol Red 2.0
BH - Dawei 388D-a 1.5

Yes, it is.
By the way, I once applied 1 layer of Falco booster to the hard sponge and it felt much better (softer!) without adding too much speed. I really liked the blocking with the boosted version but hitting was also a little bit better.

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Equipment:
OSP Ultimate, FH: Dr. Neubauer Dominance Spin Hard 2.1, BH: Dr. Neubauer Troublemaker 0.5
YouTube channel: "AntiRules"

I was experimenting with 837 1.0 orange sponge on the fh of my mats.pro and i found that it was hard to control for fh chops from far away. Most likely, it was my fault or just bad technique or bad position.

Then I started playing tonight at the club with a brand new sheet of 802 1.5 with orange sponge on a fast bomb blade...it was excellent in terms of control and just putting the ball on the table but no one really hit the ball hard on me but I did get alot of high floaters that stood up there for me to smash or to safely counter...

I'll probably lose a few points due to the speed of the blade but thats a risk I'm willing to take. The fast blade with 802 sp with 1.5 orange sponge allowed me to crack a few winners tonight with topspin style stroke.

I dont see any inconsistency in the rubber yet, however , I've only used it tonight, in houseleague and again it was excellent for fh topspin style strokes, chopping, blocking and serving. This rubber also has a lot of spin and you notice it during your service. You can see the ball curve in flight and I got a few freebies that I never would have with 837 1.0 on mats.pro which was slower but higher in throw. The bomb blade has a lower throw and can really attack with the pips.

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A big bag full of blades and long pimples, donuts and coffee!

A good, proven SP would be Stiga Clippper, but it may have more grip and speed than that you're looking for.

i used to play with clippa like 10 yrs ago too grippy! still open to further suggestions!

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Blade: Barna Original Triumph Forehand Yasaka Razka Po Backhand Der-Materialspezialist Störkraft 0.8
http://www.instagram.com/dragontattooguy

Did you ever try Milky Way Pluto? That's quite low spin.

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My whole set-up costs less than a sheet of Butterfly Dignics

what was wrong with leopard?

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Yasaka Dynamix 17
Tibhar Q 50
Butterfly Raystorm

thanks! does it feel comparably hard to the 802 though?

@julian - there was nothing wrong with the leopard so far, i only had chance to play with it once, currently i have ordered several sheets and will try them in the following days/weeks.

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Blade: Barna Original Triumph Forehand Yasaka Razka Po Backhand Der-Materialspezialist Störkraft 0.8
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No it's not that similar to 802. Its main highlight is being insensitive to spin.

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My whole set-up costs less than a sheet of Butterfly Dignics

Butterfly Speedy P.O.
medium hard sponge, low throw, good control, less spin, can be very fast