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| Author: | ian demagi [ 22 Apr 2011, 02:54 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: List of Classic and Grippy short pips out rubbers |
List updated 4/21/11 USA Eastern Time Please feel free to add to or correct the list if I have misplaced something. Certainly need to include Dr N and Hallmark but I have no experience with these. Ian |
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| Author: | abdulmuhsee [ 22 Apr 2011, 03:15 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: List of Classic and Grippy short pips out rubbers |
antipip wrote: In your opinion where does andro classic fit in, hardbat, short pimple or both? Where (if I wanted to) should I post about my gambler peacekeeper rubber that is fitted on a toni hold blade with 0.5mm anti sponge (taken from the now banned / unauthorised 'frictionless' joola anti spin long pips, the other side of the blade has the ITTF approved but no longer authorised (payment?) tornado antiloop super kilspin? Andro Classic was specifically designed as a hardbat rubber and I believe it says right on the package that it was made with the dimensions of classic hard rubber in mind. It has nothing to do with my opinion. As for whatever experimental project you want to do with Gambler Peacekeeper, no rubber would be considered a classic hard rubber if it was adulterated with the addition of sponge; it is an exception for hardbat play without sponge due to its unique (in modern standards) pip structure that makes it play like a classic hard rubber. Even with sponge, Peacekeeper would not be a 'grippy' or a 'classic' short pip; it's pip proportions are similar to classic hard rubbers and it has very, very little grip. It is referred to as a medium pip and in any case wouldn't be put on this list, so your argument is moot. The thread author is free to do what he wants, even though the list is disorganized and poorly categorized even with it being so short; I'm merely pointing that out. |
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| Author: | ian demagi [ 22 Apr 2011, 05:37 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: List of Classic and Grippy short pips out rubbers |
abdulmuhsee wrote: antipip wrote: In your opinion where does andro classic fit in, hardbat, short pimple or both? Where (if I wanted to) should I post about my gambler peacekeeper rubber that is fitted on a toni hold blade with 0.5mm anti sponge (taken from the now banned / unauthorised 'frictionless' joola anti spin long pips, the other side of the blade has the ITTF approved but no longer authorised (payment?) tornado antiloop super kilspin? Andro Classic was specifically designed as a hardbat rubber and I believe it says right on the package that it was made with the dimensions of classic hard rubber in mind. It has nothing to do with my opinion. As for whatever experimental project you want to do with Gambler Peacekeeper, no rubber would be considered a classic hard rubber if it was adulterated with the addition of sponge; it is an exception for hardbat play without sponge due to its unique (in modern standards) pip structure that makes it play like a classic hard rubber. Even with sponge, Peacekeeper would not be a 'grippy' or a 'classic' short pip; it's pip proportions are similar to classic hard rubbers and it has very, very little grip. It is referred to as a medium pip and in any case wouldn't be put on this list, so your argument is moot. The thread author is free to do what he wants, even though the list is disorganized and poorly categorized even with it being so short; I'm merely pointing that out. Abdulmuhsee-Seriously why dont you take a flying leap somewhere!!! If you don't like the thread then blow-off some where, or start your own thread-I don't see any help just criticism. Ian |
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| Author: | abdulmuhsee [ 22 Apr 2011, 07:42 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: List of Classic and Grippy short pips out rubbers |
*Shrugs.* Constructive criticism even if it's too bluntly stated for you (plus some of that is from frustration with antipip), but I guess that's pointless since you don't want to change anything even after learning the Yasaka rubber on the list isn't even the same rubber you have and is no longer approved for use (they produce a different rubber with a similar name now), but like I said, you're free to do anything you want. I'll just take a flying leap right out of the thread then! 
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| Author: | dariowai [ 22 Apr 2011, 10:38 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: List of Classic and Grippy short pips out rubbers |
friendship 802 and 802-1 not grippy 802-40 very grippy dhs 652 and 651 not grippy dragonow grippy blowfish+ i tried 5 min but is not grippy donic baxter f1 not grippy but very fast globe 889-2 japan sponge and china sponge grippy but very bad rubber |
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| Author: | mynamenotbob [ 22 Apr 2011, 10:49 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: List of Classic and Grippy short pips out rubbers |
Not Grippy Dr. Neubauer Leopard Dr. Neubauer Pistol Donic Baxster Grippy Dr. Neubauer Tornado Ultra |
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| Author: | ian demagi [ 22 Apr 2011, 20:46 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: List of Classic and Grippy short pips out rubbers |
List updated 4/22/11 USA Suggestions were to move Friendship 802 & 802-1 to non grippy. Additions to many rubbers were made. When We get more rubbers, I will alphabetize the list. Should Andro Blowfish go to non grippy? Ian |
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| Author: | Fadil Olguner [ 22 Apr 2011, 21:09 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: List of Classic and Grippy short pips out rubbers |
ian demagi wrote: List updated 4/22/11 USA Suggestions were to move Friendship 802 & 802-1 to non grippy. Additions to many rubbers were made. When We get more rubbers, I will alphabetize the list. Should Andro Blowfish go to non grippy? Ian Most players say Andro Blowfish is non grippy but I don't agree with them.For me Blowfish is grippy and very dangerous rubber for the opponents. |
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| Author: | decoy [ 23 Apr 2011, 00:09 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: List of Classic and Grippy short pips out rubbers |
clippa is only moderately grippy and very fast |
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| Author: | ian demagi [ 23 Apr 2011, 00:47 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: List of Classic and Grippy short pips out rubbers |
decoy wrote: clippa is only moderately grippy and very fast I have heard that Royal is not very grippy. Radical certainly is very grippy. Ian |
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| Author: | ian demagi [ 26 Apr 2011, 06:05 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: List of Classic and Grippy short pips out rubbers |
Friendship Dr Evil (hard bat added) 4/25/11 |
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| Author: | mynamenotbob [ 06 May 2011, 00:08 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: List of Classic and Grippy short pips out rubbers |
The list looks good except it's missing 50% or more of the SPs available. It might be better if you listed them all and people could help you with the unclassified ones. |
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| Author: | ian demagi [ 06 May 2011, 08:12 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: List of Classic and Grippy short pips out rubbers |
Tell me all the brands, and I will look them all up-which ones do I have to add? ian |
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| Author: | mynamenotbob [ 06 May 2011, 08:31 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: List of Classic and Grippy short pips out rubbers |
ian demagi wrote: Tell me all the brands, and I will look them all up-which ones do I have to add? ian Anything listed as "OUT" on this page is classified as short pips by the ITTF. http://www.ittf.com/stories/pictures/LARC_32.pdf |
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| Author: | ian demagi [ 07 May 2011, 00:06 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: List of Classic and Grippy short pips out rubbers |
mynamenotbob wrote: ian demagi wrote: Tell me all the brands, and I will look them all up-which ones do I have to add? ian Anything listed as "OUT" on this page is classified as short pips by the ITTF. http://www.ittf.com/stories/pictures/LARC_32.pdf Excellent idea-I doh myself for not thinking of this sooner! Ian |
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