The new version of the spinny pips-out rubber Super Spinpips Chop Sponge. While the tried-and-tested pips-out rubber sheet enables defence strokes with heavy backspin, the new extra-soft sponge absorbs much of the energy of your opponent's attacks, thus providing for maximum control. A pips-out rubber for modern defenders combining excellent spin characteristics with maximum control. In addition, the Super Spinpips Chop rubber sheet enables sudden close-to-the-table attacks. Super Spinpips Chop II was developed by the legendary defender, Koji Matsushita. With this rubber, Japanese super talent, Yuto Muramatsu, has become a world-class player within a very short time.

I am really interested in this rubber as a consequence of the introduction of the new plastic ball.

I am curl p1R die hard fan, but i really miss the old spin reversal with the new ball. also the higher bounce results in my chops getting smashed (and i dont mean chopping spinless balls of the opponent, but their loops)

So i was thinking: with this rubber i can generate my own spin, do chopping and smash higher bouncing top spins?

I was also thinking of one of the spectols, but i think this rubber should be slower and better controlled. Muramatsu also plays it with the style i like. The plan would be to play the bh like muramatsu, sometimes turning the paddle to play with the inverted on backside and then a very active forehand like joo or chen weixing do. just with 95% less skill

Is there anybody here who has played this rubber on a regular basis and got really good with it? or somebody who has tested this rubber with the new plastic ball?

Or do you recommend different rubbers for my intended stlye of play? I am kind of sad that top choppers like joo se hyuk or shiono all say that they can not get old spin reversal and are reconsidering changing material with the introduction of the plastic ball. I wrote to TSP a couple of days ago, they answered in a very general way, saying that they would work around the clock on rubbers for the new plastic ball. i hope this wont be the end of lp chopping.

oak forum had interviews with joo se hyuk and shiono. they can be found on this page. viewtopic.php?f=56&t=22125

i have never played short pips, but Muramatsu plays them like long pips. and there is this other older chinese player (sorry forgot his name) who plays a spectol rubber like long pips. they have a different kind of spin, looks like sidespin, but i thought with a system change i might give it a go. i am too old and ambitious to switch to inverted so i thought i might get faster into sp. as long as the rubber industry has not developed better lps for the plastic ball i want to try something else. in my first tries with the ball i lost to players that i normally never loose to. i hope that the developement of the plastic ball will go on and it will become more like the celluloid ball, but i am sceptical. either the rubber industry solves it or i will have to try other material.

*Based on your experience, due to the changes in the equipment rules, how would you advise a youngster now starting the game who wants to be a defender? Would you suggest that they play with long pips, or should they turn to double inverted and attacking play? Would your answer be different depending on what standard of play they were aiming to achieve?

It's very challenging to be a defensive player. In order to win, you need to practice both offense and defense. It's really difficult to win with defense alone, so it's necessary to play offense - not just offense, but at the same level that the offensive players perform. Moreover, my guess is that long pips will be less beneficial when the ball changes to plastic in 2014. I've used it, and found that much less spin is produced.

*What impact did ITTF decisions (like the 38mm ball) have on top level table tennis, and what influence do you think the new PVC balls will have (in particular for defenders and defensive style)?

The decision can benefit some players while hindering others. The players are somewhat weary because they have to make adjustments (in response to the frequent changes in the rules). Also, the PVC ball doesn't spin very well. Again, it's likely that the new ball will be a hinderance for long pip users.

Thats true, but i have also seen youtube reviews of one of the two three star plastic balls that are already accepted by ittf.

and although they aint as bad as the first samples, they still show the characteristics of less spin and higher bounce.

It was not the one made by dhs, but that other company, sorry, i am bad with names. (xushafoa?)

the balls i played might not have been one of the latest models, but i know experienced table tennis coaches who play pips and tried the new offically accepted ball and were very frustrated with the lack of spin compared to the celluloid ball. there is a very good forum just for pips in german, so i dont know if its worth it sharing the link with you, but you could try google translator. (http://www.noppen-test.de/forum/viewtop ... ll#p182768)

i am torn between your very reasonable advice to wait for the final product and giving that some development time and the idea of being prepared and already adapting my playing system to how i predict the ball to be based on my tests and those of others.

but we are getting a bit off topic I am still interested what people think of those pips and the system i intend to play or whether they have other pips to recommend.