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Kees wrote:
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I'm really impressed, great topic.
So, i want to try short pips on both sides of clipper. What cheap short pips should i try: 802, 802-40, etc...and what thickness should i use?
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I would suggest 802-40 on both sides (2.2mm on the forehand, 2.0 mm on the backhand). The Clipper is fast, so you would need some grip to be able to control the ball well. 802-1 in 2.0/2.2 mm on both sides would work too, but be more difficult to control. 802 would be quite difficult.


I agree with Kees. I played 802, 802-1 and Spinlord Degu, which is similar to 802-40.
802-1 in 2,0 on BH and 802-40 FH would be a good combination too. You could try both Rubbers and it´s more difficult for your opponent because he get´s (slightly) different spin from either side.

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Thanks guys!
I think i'll try both: 802 and 802-40 in 2mm or max.
802-40 would be first.


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5hark wrote:
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I think i'll try both: 802 and 802-40 in 2mm or max.
802-40 would be first.


802 is difficult to play. It doesn´t generate much spin on your hard blade (nearly no spin at all).
Because of that you don´t have much controll and must hit the ball exactly right.
Try 802-1 instead. It´s between 802 and 802-40 in sponge hardness. Quite good on backhand.

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802 is difficult to play. It doesn´t generate much spin on your hard blade (nearly no spin at all).
Because of that you don´t have much controll and must hit the ball exactly right.
Try 802-1 instead. It´s between 802 and 802-40 in sponge hardness. Quite good on backhand.

Greetings Claus

So I'll try 802-40.
Thx Claus. ;)


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ClausTrophobie wrote:
802 is difficult to play. It doesn´t generate much spin on your hard blade (nearly no spin at all).
Because of that you don´t have much controll and must hit the ball exactly right.


I disagree. I find 802 one of the most controllable SPs. It doesn't generate as much spin as 802-40 (I've not used 802-1), but I prefer it for hitting. 802-40 is almost inverted in its properties. If you're coming from inverted, it's a good gateway SP, I guess, but for me it lacks certain classic SP qualities, which is why I suggested 802.

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ClausTrophobie wrote:
5hark wrote:
Thanks guys!
I think i'll try both: 802 and 802-40 in 2mm or max.
802-40 would be first.


802 is difficult to play. It doesn´t generate much spin on your hard blade (nearly no spin at all).
Because of that you don´t have much controll and must hit the ball exactly right.
Try 802-1 instead. It´s between 802 and 802-40 in sponge hardness. Quite good on backhand.

Greetings Claus


Same observation here. In my wood blade, I have to mind my racket angle because of 802's high throw. And blocks that go wild with 802 are awesome with 802-1. Even counterdriving is easy with 802-1. In my tests, 802 is hard to play. Perhaps it's because 802 is spinnier? Now, I don't really have much experience with SPs (only 3 tried so far) but you can really tell the difference between 802 and 802-1. But both have the same speed.

I have the 802-1 in 2.2mm in the forehand. When I twiddle, I play 802-1 in the backhand like an inverted - racket closed.

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Lol, i like this argue! :)


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It shows how personal things are. I've used 802 and 802-40 on a P700 which is very similar to a clipper, and I currently use it on a slightly softer 7 ply blade.

I've tried a lot of SP. Overall I find 802 to be super reliable. Does everything well, cheap as chips, and feels great. I prefer it over -40, but that's just a personal thing. I'm just saying that in my experience it's not especially hard to control compared to, say, 651 or 652.

I might revisit 802-40 out of interest, though.


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LordCope wrote:
It shows how personal things are.


Amen to that.

Much experienced players may find the 802 easy to play, though.

If I may add something I remember about the said rubbers' spin. When hitting (or trying to do a slow loop.. I don't know how it's called) balls that have dropped near table level, the 802 is better. You can feel the topsheet gripping the ball giving it enough spin, while the 802-1 topsheet seem hard and stiff. (I must add that that stroke engages the sponge)

Yes, it all boils down to personal preference in the end.

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