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| Author: | 7homuz [ 14 Sep 2016, 11:07 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: TSP Spectol Red/Blue and Spinpips Red/Blue |
Has anyone tried this yet? I have a sheet of the RED coming, hope it arrives in time for Friday's training session. Been trying out different pips on my backhand (medium ox, medium sponged, next is SP). |
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| Author: | agooding2 [ 19 Sep 2016, 00:24 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: TSP Spectol Red/Blue and Spinpips Red/Blue |
haggisv wrote: The free sample thread was here: viewtopic.php?f=13&t=29914 I'm afraid I left it too long and forgot about it though.. didn't get around to sending out the samples... I've still got them.  If you want to send me a sheet of the blue version in 1.5 red color I'll test them for you. |
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| Author: | Attacker [ 22 Sep 2016, 07:31 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: TSP Spectol Red/Blue and Spinpips Red/Blue |
Tested the blue version in 1.5. Damn fast  , comparable with the normal Spectol in 1.8 or even the Max. So, nothing for me ( wannabe modern Defense ) in the BH, who needs max control. Beside the speed the feeling is not too bad, actually quite good.
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| Author: | haggisv [ 22 Sep 2016, 12:16 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: TSP Spectol Red/Blue and Spinpips Red/Blue |
agooding2 wrote: If you want to send me a sheet of the blue version in 1.5 red color I'll test them for you. Done... I finally got around to it.
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| Author: | Attacker [ 01 Oct 2016, 00:55 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: TSP Spectol Red/Blue and Spinpips Red/Blue |
and ? |
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| Author: | haggisv [ 01 Oct 2016, 10:11 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: TSP Spectol Red/Blue and Spinpips Red/Blue |
I tried the Spectol Red (1.8mm) myself, and although I'm not really a SP player, I found it to be quite fast, and perhaps a little spinnier compared the regular Spectol. I had some trouble controlling it (coming from a much slower LP of course), but found it to be great for attacking (flick) serves and it's fast. ALthough the pips feel a little hard, you just need to dig in the ball slightly to get the grip. |
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| Author: | rokphish2 [ 01 Oct 2016, 14:26 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: TSP Spectol Red/Blue and Spinpips Red/Blue |
does it have any funky features? |
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| Author: | AndySmith [ 01 Oct 2016, 16:34 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: TSP Spectol Red/Blue and Spinpips Red/Blue |
haggisv wrote: I tried the Spectol Red (1.8mm) myself, and although I'm not really a SP player, I found it to be quite fast, and perhaps a little spinnier compared the regular Spectol. I had some trouble controlling it (coming from a much slower LP of course), but found it to be great for attacking (flick) serves and it's fast. ALthough the pips feel a little hard, you just need to dig in the ball slightly to get the grip. I'm doing some SP experimentation at the mo (you only live once, eh?). Enjoying the original spinpips quite a lot, looking forward to the new versions, but I hear they've been delayed. I've read that the topsheet on Spectol Red/Blue is different to the original version - the pips on the new sheet have a conical base. Someone took some nice comparison pics on this blog here: http://blog.tts-takahashi.com/?eid=196100 About the new red and blue sponges - I know that the blue one is harder, and that TSP rate the red one as faster, but has anyone used both yet and how do they compare in the real world? Is it just that the red is bouncier? |
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| Author: | agooding2 [ 03 Oct 2016, 07:31 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: TSP Spectol Red/Blue and Spinpips Red/Blue |
Got my sheet of TSP Spectol Blue 1.5 in red from OOAK yesterday. Compared to a regular sheet of Spectol speed, the rubber is more matte, rather than translucent meaning it is more of a cooked pip. Top sheet feels harder, the sponge is marked 43* +/- 5 degrees, and feels very dynamic though there was no dome either way. Had been playing with Armstrong Attack 3 L which has larger pips and is a raw/translucent pip. Had also been playing with the newer version of Double Happiness 651, with is also a larger pip, but cooked. Bot the above have slightly longer pips, the TSP Spectol blue is small and pyramid shape like old Spectol, while the others are cylindrical. I put the Spectol Blue on the forehand of a fast custom Kevlar/carbon blade with two layers of VOC-free glue. I play short pips penhold with inverted rubber on the back but mostly block traditional style versus using the RPB stroke. I like to smash with the forehand at the first opportunity. US eating is 1700-1800 depending on the day, high intermediate in skill, don't play as often as I did. The Spectol Blue had a very flat arc compared to regular Spectol, which I remember as having a much higher arc. It is extremely fast, fastest I have tried in a 1.5 thickness, the harder sponge does not bottom out on flat hits. It excels at hitting flat and blocking hard loops, with the ball skidding or even reversing slightly on the return. Smashing lobs off the bounce was easy, took good timing but needed very little backswing. Serve and kill 3rd ball worked great when I had a pop up to work with and the spin on serves and pushes was adequate to force errors. When blocking, the angle had to be more exact than with a raw pip or the ball goes off the end, but get it right and it's low and difficult to counter. Spectol Blue seems to require more of a commitment than other short and medium pips I've tried, it responds best to harder shots, but not as well to medium speed shots. You seem to need to dig the ball into the sponge to get more control, if you don't engage the sponge there is less control. Maybe this is why it is more a rubber for professionals than amateurs. I will keep using it and compare to other short pips, like Spectol Speed and a sheet of Mizuno Booster EV I have. Looks promising but I will need to practice more often than every two weeks as I have been. |
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| Author: | jevansau [ 09 Mar 2017, 15:26 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: TSP Spectol Red/Blue and Spinpips Red/Blue |
Did you end up getting any spinpips red or blue? |
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