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PostPosted: 26 Jan 2017, 05:03 
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All, I am going to commit a mortal sin and ask a question I'm sure has been asked a million times. I have searched, but I would like some direct responses.

I am completely new to the world of SP attacking. This is going to be for a backup setup, as I just want to experiment. (Main setup is for chopping).

My question...I envision a style of blocking, touch play, and hitting.... my understanding is soft raw pips are grippier? And cooked pips are slicker but slower? I read the stickied post from Kentyu which is very nice, but I'm still confused.

So, for blocking and touch play...is there a choice that still hits well?

This will go on a Joola Rossi Emotion (Off/OFF-) but I am open to getting a clipper clone or something like that.

Since this will be for an experimental bat that I will not use that often, I would like it to be under 30 bucks...under 20 if possible.

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PostPosted: 26 Jan 2017, 07:13 
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Basically all SP hit well. Touch play in my experience tends to be a function of the sponge softness and the blade, and you just need to experiment to see what feels best. There are lots of cheap chinese pips around, and they're all good, and mostly pretty similar. For the game you describe, I would steer you more towards something like Spectol, Degu, or Baxster, but these aren't very cheap (Degu is the cheapest).

You might like 105 Legend - that's soft, blocks nicely, and hits well. But you might prefer something harder, in which case one of the 802 family could work for you.

I have dozens of SPs that I would gladly send you if you want to try some.

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My main settup is also chopping. And I've also made experimental bat for sp fh atk. I use 802-40 on clipper cr blade for a week and I'm happy. Great block, great drive. And it's cheap. :)


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LordCope wrote:
Basically all SP hit well. Touch play in my experience tends to be a function of the sponge softness and the blade, and you just need to experiment to see what feels best. There are lots of cheap chinese pips around, and they're all good, and mostly pretty similar. For the game you describe, I would steer you more towards something like Spectol, Degu, or Baxster, but these aren't very cheap (Degu is the cheapest).

You might like 105 Legend - that's soft, blocks nicely, and hits well. But you might prefer something harder, in which case one of the 802 family could work for you.

I have dozens of SPs that I would gladly send you if you want to try some.

Wow, that would be nice!!!

I don't want to put you out on the shipping. What's it cost to ship a few rubbers to the US?

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LordCope wrote:
Basically all SP hit well. Touch play in my experience tends to be a function of the sponge softness and the blade, and you just need to experiment to see what feels best. There are lots of cheap chinese pips around, and they're all good, and mostly pretty similar. For the game you describe, I would steer you more towards something like Spectol, Degu, or Baxster, but these aren't very cheap (Degu is the cheapest).

You might like 105 Legend - that's soft, blocks nicely, and hits well. But you might prefer something harder, in which case one of the 802 family could work for you.

I have dozens of SPs that I would gladly send you if you want to try some.


Hello LC
I am new to short pips on the bh. And have started with 802.40 on TSP all-round to fast balsa blades

I find the 802.40 1.5mm black is about right for speed and spin but lacks touch. Tried 2.0mm but far to bouncy on push serve returns.

Would degu 1.8 be an option or perhaps degu II 1.5mm which has a slower harder sponge. I need the rubber to be spinny and quite linear and not bouncy or mushy to help compensate for balsa blades being not very linear. I.e play like a classic rather than tensor inverted rubber.


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I like Butterfly Challenger Attack 1.5mm for that style but not on a blade with a thick balsa core as it becomes a bit too bouncy for me. You won't get it new for that price but maybe pick up a sheet second hand. I'm still use SP's that are years and years old and don't find much degradation in feel or performance, certainly not like I do with inverted.


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