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PostPosted: 15 Feb 2018, 08:57 
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I'm not really interested in what the pro's use, I'm not a pro and never will be. So, if you play with SP's on your BH and are a counter hitter, up to the table style, what thickness sponge do you use and with what blade?

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I played close to the table FH SP attack and Stiga Clipper was best imo and cheaper. Max sponge. But yeah I think BH would be different equipment.

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i play both sides shortpips. blade timo boll t5000. fh flarestorm 2,5mm untill june (becouse i have my last sheet )i will play from july tuttle summer 3c 2,2mm .bh spectol 21 2,1mm

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dariowai wrote:
i play both sides shortpips. blade timo boll t5000. fh flarestorm 2,5mm untill june (becouse i have my last sheet )i will play from july tuttle summer 3c 2,2mm .bh spectol 21 2,1mm


Summer 3C is medium pips

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http://tt-store.eu/rubbers/rubbers-with ... -summer-3c short pips
http://tt-store.eu/rubbers/rubbers-with ... -winter-3e medium pips

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PostPosted: 15 Feb 2018, 17:32 
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Current setup, and my findings and plans.

Blade: Friendship W-1 (DEF+, "oversize")

FH: DHS Skyline TG2, max, black.
Good for attack, but hard to control (even on that blade). Going back to Hurricane 3, I think. That's what I used before, with good results. Only changed to Skyline because it happened to lie around...

BH: Friendship 802-40, max, red.
Too lively for me. I decided to try this when the Joola Snabb went out of LARC. Turns out that this is exactly what I don't need on my backhand. Possibly going dual inverted (KTL pro?) or something closer to the Joola rubber (plain 802 with a little thinner sponge?)


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keme wrote:
BH: Friendship 802-40, max, red.
Too lively for me.


This is exactly the reason I'm asking the question, except in reverse. I've tended to use SP's with thinner sponge or no sponge. However, after using double inverted now for nearly 2 years when coaching and not playing league anymore, or social matches I've steered away from SP's. Now I'm getting fitter again and wanting to go back to SP's on my backhand I'm finding the SP's OX, or 1.5 and even 1.8/9 feel dead particularly when blocking. The ball slides off them a lot compared to the softish inverted I've been using and feels dead when I block. I really have to punch through the ball if I want any "umph" like I can get simply by putting my bat in the way with inverted. I've tried a mixture of blades, some custom with walnut vaneers others carbon and they still feel dead by comparison. I've now taken off the thinner sponged SP's and I'm trying TSP Tyranno and if that doesn't work SuperSpin Pips(old version) both in 2.2mm. When I used these in the past - years ago - they only lasted one session as I felt they were too lively. So I could be moving full circle from thinner to thicker sponge on my pimples, something I didn't think I'd do.

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dariowai wrote:
http://tt-store.eu/rubbers/rubbers-with-pimples-out/tuttle-summer-3c short pips
http://tt-store.eu/rubbers/rubbers-with ... -winter-3e medium pips
Sorry, I got them mixed up.

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Re short pips on your backhand it really depends on your intended style of play and what you trying to gain over inverted. If you want to retain the ability to impart topspin then choose a spinny pip. Next you need to decide how fast, lot of short pips now having tensor type sponges for FH attack

Two aspects give spin first the pip design and whether smooth or rough and secondly the sponge thickness. TSP Spectol for instance is said to generate more spin on chops as the sponge thickness increases, as the ball sinks more into the soft sponge.

Re blades I am finding that a medium speed fairly stiff & hard blade works best for short pips on the BH. Balsa unless a def blade or with carbon can be too bouncy and inconsistent when pushing/blocking excaberrated by choosing thick sponge.


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...Two aspects give spin first the pip design and whether smooth or rough and secondly the sponge thickness. TSP Spectol for instance is said to generate more spin on chops as the sponge thickness increases, as the ball sinks more into the soft sponge...


That's exactly why I switched to Spectol 1.8mm (instead of 1.5)!
Although I chop with my BH, the thicker sponge plays much better at the table for blocking and hitting.
I may try Spectol 21 in 1.8mm to add even more spin because of its softer sponge.
Using an old BTY Grubba ALL+ (90g and quite stiff for an allround blade).

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802-40 ox.
Very happy with BH ox.

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Ox versus thin sponge versus thick sponge will depend not just on your choice of rubber and blade but also how close you are to the table. Thicker sponge comes in best for creating a lot of back spin when chopping heavily away from the table. If you play over the table more and want control on backspin pushes, serve returns etc. as well as ability to flat hit high balls for winners then go thinner sponge. I was using 802.40 1.5mm Ok and the tried 2mm - every push went long. For the same reason I am now using Keiler in its thinnest 1.2mm even though 1.5mm is better for attacking with.


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