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 Post subject: Spinlord Waran II
PostPosted: 11 Apr 2018, 03:48 
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Has anyone tried this rubber? I played with the original Waran for awhile but found it a bit too unreliable on blocks and chops (throw was too high), though great in every other department. This one is said to be even faster, so it might be great for all-out short pips attackers. Here is a review from TT-Maximum (if you're just interested in their overall review and not in any of the actual testing and commentary, skip to around 5:45 in the video):


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I. Re-Impact Smart; FH: TSP Spinpips RED 2.1mm; BH: Dr. Neubauer Gangster OX
II. Sauer & Troger Firestarter; FH: Spinlord Waran 1.8mm; BH: Giant Dragon Snowflake OX
III. Sauer & Troger Firestarter; FH: Yasaka Rakza 7 Soft 1.8mm; BH: Joola Badman Reloaded OX
IV. Victas Koji Matsushita; FH: Yasaka Rakza 7 Soft 1.8mm; BH: TSP P-1R 1.0-1.3mm
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 Post subject: Re: Spinlord Waran II
PostPosted: 11 Apr 2018, 21:39 
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TraditionalTradesman wrote:
Has anyone tried this rubber? I played with the original Waran for awhile but found it a bit too unreliable on blocks and chops (throw was too high), though great in every other department. This one is said to be even faster, so it might be great for all-out short pips attackers. Here is a review from TT-Maximum (if you're just interested in their overall review and not in any of the actual testing and commentary, skip to around 5:45 in the video):



Hello,

I´m playing Waran II with 2mm sponge as FH-Rubber on an all+/off- Balsa/Carbo Wood (Arbalest Thor 6.0, new Version of Yinhe/Galaxy Speer).
BH is Spinlord Keiler 1,5.
The sponge is quite harder then the sponge of Waran.
It´s a bit faster and more direct (therefore more reliable) than Waran. Throw angle is in fact lower.
So it should suit you well.

Difficult is sometimes to find the right angle between throwing the ball into the net and throwing it over the table.
Block/Counter/Smash ist excellent. I try everythink to avoid chopping. Not because the rubber wouldn´t allow it, but because of tactics.

I like this rubber very much. On a faster wood, you maybe get problems controlling it.

Greetings Claus.


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 Post subject: Re: Spinlord Waran II
PostPosted: 16 Nov 2018, 00:34 
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Hi Claus,

Are you still using Waran II? Have you tried it on the BH side, do you think it would work there, or is it a more FH-type rubber in your opinion?

I'm comfortable with Waran on my BH, but blocks are indeed sometimes unreliable. Also, I think I prefer harder sponge rubbers in general, so I'm considering switching to 1.8 mm Waran II.


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 Post subject: Re: Spinlord Waran II
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Hi Ziv,

I changed to normal Waran on fh very soon after my last post under this topic. I found the throw angle of Waran II much to low. Therefore there was only a very small margin to hit the table instead of hitting the net or getting the ball to long.
With my all-wood TSP Reflex Award 50 off and Waran I, 2.0mm feel very comfortable.

Waran II may suit you better on backhand, because here the low angle is not such an issue, but i didn´t tried this.

Greetings Claus


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 Post subject: Re: Spinlord Waran II
PostPosted: 16 Nov 2018, 01:00 
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Thanks, Claus!

One more question - can you compare Waran II to normal Waran in the most important departments: pushes, blocks (I understand that version II is more reliable), spin, hits?


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 Post subject: Re: Spinlord Waran II
PostPosted: 16 Nov 2018, 01:21 
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Hi,

Waran II feels more direct - naturally with it´s harder sponge
push is imho the same as Waran,
topspin is more difficult because of dwell time
block is a little bit more reliable because of harder sponge, but also a little more difficult because of throw angle.
smash same as block but make no mistake: Waran is very,very good on smash and block.

I think Waran II is a special rubber. Maybe it is good for you.

As said before, I play and played Waran and Waran II only on fh, bh may be another story.

Greetings Claus


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 Post subject: Re: Spinlord Waran II
PostPosted: 16 Nov 2018, 14:33 
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ziv wrote:
Hi Claus,

Are you still using Waran II? Have you tried it on the BH side, do you think it would work there, or is it a more FH-type rubber in your opinion?

I'm comfortable with Waran on my BH, but blocks are indeed sometimes unreliable. Also, I think I prefer harder sponge rubbers in general, so I'm considering switching to 1.8 mm Waran II.


Hi Ziv, what do you mean by blocks unreliable? I found the original Waran one of the best in terms of blocking control (amongst spinny pips). Are you talking about throw angle or too sensitive to spin? In that case, maybe classic spectol types are better, especially for shakehands backhand.


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 Post subject: Re: Spinlord Waran II
PostPosted: 16 Nov 2018, 23:35 
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lasta wrote:
Hi Ziv, what do you mean by blocks unreliable? I found the original Waran one of the best in terms of blocking control (amongst spinny pips). Are you talking about throw angle or too sensitive to spin? In that case, maybe classic spectol types are better, especially for shakehands backhand.

Hi, lasta, yes, I meant that the sponge is perhaps a little bit too soft which results in a higher throw and the bottoming out problem.

I could not help ordering a sheet of Waran II which should arrive by Wed. Let's see how it suits my BH!


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