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Author:	situsit [ 03 Feb 2019, 11:02 ]
Post subject:	moristo sp
Due to the mima ito effect I decided to try moristo. I thought it was a spinny pip but it turns out it plays more like a classic pip. my sheet in 2mm felt not very grippy compared to 802, spectol, spectol red and spinpip red. Even on spin test it reacted less than the other pips I got. Is this what others have found or is it just my sheet. This is the 1st time I have tried a raw pip which is vertically aligned all my other pips are horizontal. I use pips on my bh and I was hitting long and blocking into the net a lot. Might need to get use to the angles again or is there a technique change required for vertical aligned pips.

Author:	nathanso [ 03 Feb 2019, 11:47 ]
Post subject:	Re: moristo sp
Maybe ITO is using the new Moristo SP Ax? viewtopic.php?f=13&t=33677 The Ax version has horizontal pips and can generate plenty of spin.

Author:	cmugica [ 03 Feb 2019, 20:35 ]
Post subject:	Re: moristo sp
My teamate has used Moristo on backhand. You can get enough spin to play like Ito does. It's easier to hit and block than with Waran.

Author:	Casperin [ 04 Feb 2019, 07:46 ]
Post subject:	Re: moristo sp
I play with Moristo sp (2.2mm) on backhand too, and yes, it does not have a lot of spin to it. The only other rubber that you are comparing it to that I have played with is Spectol 1.5mm (today actually), and I don't agree that it has less spin than that. I found it nearly impossible to create any real spin with Spectol (not really what it's meant to do either -- I actually really enjoyed playing with it.) As cmugica said, you can definitely generate spin with Moristo.

Author:	iskandar taib [ 04 Mar 2019, 14:27 ]
Post subject:	Re: moristo sp
Speaking of Ito, I was just watching this just now: Goodness gracious... that backhand. Though in the last few points it was the forehand crosscourt drive that did most of the damage. What Chinese rubber would be similar? 802-40? Iskandar

Author:	lasta [ 04 Mar 2019, 14:41 ]
Post subject:	Re: moristo sp
iskandar taib wrote: Speaking of Ito, I was just watching this just now: Goodness gracious... that backhand. Though in the last few points it was the forehand crosscourt drive that did most of the damage. What Chinese rubber would be similar? 802-40? Iskandar I would hazard the Legend 105 is closest. 802-40 has a much harder topsheet.

Author:	ziv [ 04 Mar 2019, 21:23 ]
Post subject:	Re: moristo sp
iskandar taib wrote: Who makes Legend 105? 729 aka Friendship.

Author:	iskandar taib [ 13 Mar 2019, 21:58 ]
Post subject:	Re: moristo sp
Ah.. this stuff: https://www.aliexpress.com/item/Free-Sh ... 16831.html I didn't find it until I searched for "729 legend". They say it's medium pips, and it's a $15 rubber. Maybe I'll order a sheet. Comes in two different thicknesses and two different sponge hardnesses (looks pretty soft and thin - 36/38 degrees, and 1.7 and 1.9mm). And there's the "Gold" version: https://www.aliexpress.com/item/RITC-72 ... 51711.html Eacheng does not sell this (it's from Playa) and it's twice the price (~$29). Too expensive to try on a whim. Iskandar

Author:	lasta [ 14 Mar 2019, 00:05 ]
Post subject:	Re: moristo sp
I didn't know they had a gold version. What's the difference? The original is definitely a short pip, not medium. A very soft rubber, a bit too much so for my tastes, but fast (by Chinese standards).

Author:	cmugica [ 14 Mar 2019, 02:49 ]
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Post subject: Re: moristo sp Thank you.

Author:	igorponger [ 14 Mar 2019, 04:11 ]
Post subject:	Re: moristo sp
iskandar taib wrote: Speaking of Ito, I was just watching this just now: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6N7Dbj8iFFc Goodness gracious... that backhand. Though in the last few points it was the forehand crosscourt drive that did most of the damage. What Chinese rubber would be similar? 802-40? Iskandar The very problematic point is the sponge underlayer. Moristo SP rubber is coupled with German ESN porous sponge, 30 degree by japanese hardness scale. Of all the china-made rubber products, 729 Mistery III porous sponge looks the closest resemblance of the ESN bubbly sponge. I took some excursion all over Ali Express market, and my happy find is the 563 Mistery III, the porous sponge with 40 hardness index. (equal to japanese 30 degree index). I strongly believe 563 Mystery model is the very true anologue of the Moristo SP, And yes, LEGEND 105 looks another candidate quiet worthy for me to try.

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igorponger [ 14 Mar 2019, 05:17 ]

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Re: moristo sp

nathanso wrote:

Maybe ITO is using the new Moristo SP Ax? viewtopic.php?f=13&t=33677 The Ax version has horizontal pips and can generate plenty of spin.

Ichiro Ogimura's memorable teaching was as follows

Quote:

Change notning in your playing performance while winning,
and look to change something when you got defeated.

Ito Mima still goes on winning .... Yes.

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Author:	iskandar taib [ 14 Mar 2019, 12:26 ]
Post subject:	Re: moristo sp
lasta wrote: I didn't know they had a gold version. What's the difference? The original is definitely a short pip, not medium. A very soft rubber, a bit too much so for my tastes, but fast (by Chinese standards). I've absolutely no idea.. Maybe someone who reads Chinese BBSs could tell us. I do know it costs twice as much. There are all sorts of mystery "upgrade" rubbers out there - for instance, there's a "national version" of MX-P being sold, with the German flag on the front of the package. Which "national" team was it made for? Something I read some time ago claimed it was for the Chinese national team. Who actually uses it? No one in the top 20 as far as I can tell (unless it's Samsonov and I doubt he uses it, since he's not Chinese - unless he buys it off the retailers..). Iskandar

Author:	iskandar taib [ 14 Mar 2019, 12:29 ]
Post subject:	Re: moristo sp
igorponger wrote: I strongly believe 563 Mystery model is the very true anologue of the Moristo SP, It is, however, medium pips. 105 is also listed as such but might not be. Iskandar

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