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PostPosted: 07 Sep 2007, 15:48 
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Hi everyone
Yesterday I played a chineese guy in my club, and he is really giving me a headache. He dosn´t loop at all with hís forehand but hit or smash the ball instead. This is making my defence extremely difficult. I have tried to defend myself with heavy backspin to his forehand, but he dosn´t care. I spend most of my time getting the ball from the corner behind me. I also tried to keep most balls in his backhand, but he has a great footwork so eventually he will smash the ball past me :cry: . Does anyone have a good suggestion to how I can deal with this guy ?

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Try giving him no-spin... keep it deep and low with little spin... this will make it very hard for him to hit consistantly...

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Thanks a lot haggisv. I thought of that too and spin variation might work. Another approach is attacking the ball before my opponent, but since my shift to RITC 802 1,5 mm I have problems with low balls. The throw angle is quite low so it is hard for me to attack low balls. Instead I try to push them short or roll them. Maybe I would be better of with a faster blade or a 1,8 mm sponge. That would make my attack easier and faster.

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I forund you have to give hitters either heavy topspin,heavy backspin or no spin at all.Don't give them sidespin or mild backspin or mild topspin.
The longer the better :wink:


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Yes I agree with all that...

Since they tend not to generate spin, they lose the control that this offers. So they have to use spin. Heavy spin is harder to use for them, and can often kick off the table. No spin is even harder, but not as easy for us to generate and keep low.

Anything short and a little too high is usaully gone...

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speedplay wrote:
I sure hate to play hitters, but I do believe that spin variation is very important. Get him to trust that your backspin will work to his advantage and then feed him with no spin or even top. At my level I have also noticed that hitters are having difficulties against long shots, so try to place the ball near his endline instead of keeping it short.


I agree.
At very high level - keep it short and low.
At intermediate - hit ball to both corners(hope he doesn't have great footwork), heavy under spin still has some positive result at this level.
At lower level, keep spinning the ball,doesn't have to be fast, to make him play blocking game, defensive mode - won't work against higher level tho.

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I know when I was hitting, I found it much easier to hit when the ball was short than anything else.

With short pips I found short low chop much easier to hit than long, low chop.

The danger with going short is that, especially if you have chopped the ball, the distance to get over the net is less and so they can hit the ball with greater margin for error as the spin dragging the ball down has less distance in which to make an impact.

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Most hitters I know are forced to roll the ball when it has extreme length (white line). This is how a lot of SP players play against defenders - rolling the ball with plenty of air but little top spin until they stick one up or short for them to hit.

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Backspin is not the solution , the hitter will use that as his topspin and you will be amazed in the worst way ! :lol:

Slow and heavy topspin or nospin I think is the answer until a smash ocasion appears. At least that's my way against hitters and antispin players ... Only very few backspins just for variation and deception.

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Have you played him again yet, sledge_hammer?

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Thanks a lot everybody for the advice. And no Haggisv, I havn´t played him again. Playing with SP myself in the forehand makes it difficult to generate significant topspin with my forehand. If I really want to win against him, I can twiddle and use the inverted side in my forehand, but I would like to beat him with the SP in the forehand. I agree that I have to keep the balls long. He has excellent footwork and kills short balls quite consistently. I have now ordered the globe 889 in 1,8 mm. It might give more speed in my opening shots without loosing to much control.

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Well the right equipment can certainly help to some extent, but a lot is still up to you :wink:

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sledge_hammer wrote:
Thanks a lot everybody for the advice. And no Haggisv, I havn´t played him again. Playing with SP myself in the forehand makes it difficult to generate significant topspin with my forehand. If I really want to win against him, I can twiddle and use the inverted side in my forehand, but I would like to beat him with the SP in the forehand. I agree that I have to keep the balls long. He has excellent footwork and kills short balls quite consistently. I have now ordered the globe 889 in 1,8 mm. It might give more speed in my opening shots without loosing to much control.

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Grab some 802-40 and slap him before he slaps you :wink: it really is unreal what you can do with this rubber after some practice,my shot selection needs a bit of tweaking as I sometimes try to hit balls that I should be rolling but for an agressive return of serve I have not used anything better.

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Sounds great alfie. Maybe the 802-40 is worth a try.

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if you do make sure you get the white supersoft 35* sponge,there are a lot of different 35* sponges out there but that one is the best by far

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