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PostPosted: 24 Jun 2013, 20:55 
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Lets say the opponents bat hit,s the ball at/from t=0-0,001 sec.
This batarea is the future area/spot for the ball upto t=0.
At t=0 this area becomes the present location (for the ball).
Preliminary time upto this point t=0 can be considered negative time (or waiting time).
I have to read the fysics future (for the ball) then to anticipate better on the physics present. :D .


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Stop taking Zyrtec for 24 hours works wonders for me ;P

But in general a few laps around the Nurburgring on Gran Turismo 5 sharpens you right up in a hurry. In the end I think it's all experience. Beginners get worried by netted balls or edged balls yet they hardly bother the rally at all once you are experienced.

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foam wrote:
In the end I think it's all experience. Beginners get worried by netted balls or edged balls yet they hardly bother the rally at all once you are experienced.


Yes. Experience. Especially experience in anticipating when it comes to what we perceive as reaction time issues.

As for nets and edges, I disagree. They typically "bother" the rally. You can see it at the highest levels. Net balls are typically easier to make a play on, but they still disrupt and change the rally significantly if they are anything more than a "micro" touch. Edges can be virtually unplayable. This is all because these contacts cause the ball to deviate from the expected path - sometimes quite radically.

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Well bother the rally yes but you rarely see an experienced player not able to adjust to an edge ball and still return something of decent quality, especailly on the long edge, nets even more so, side edges are more tricky but then again side edges don't happen much unless you are playing a long pimpler. Beginners don't get a bat near them despite in theory having the same reaction time.

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Well bother the rally yes but you rarely see an experienced player not able to adjust to an edge ball and still return something of decent quality, especailly on the long edge, nets even more so, side edges are more tricky but then again side edges don't happen much unless you are playing a long pimpler. Beginners don't get a bat near them despite in theory having the same reaction time.


We must be looking at different matches. My observation with edge balls is that they tend to be a problem more often. The problems with edge balls is that the deflection is closer to the player (closer to when they need to contact the ball - less time to react), typically results in reduced bounce height, and edges frequently add side deflections. Nets, on the other hand, happen further from when the player must contact the ball and often deflect the ball upwards, giving the player more time to adjust.

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I think as a looper its easy just by the fact that you're only about 15% into your swing when the ball bounces and the blade is still miles under the table and under the ball so you can easily change to another stroke mid swing. Trying to do that from a flat hit level or above the ball would be another much more difficult story.

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side edges are more tricky but then again side edges don't happen much unless you are playing a long pimpler.


You obviously haven't played some of the players at my club! :P :lol:

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The problem you have Reb, is that you are on the other end of the table!. Playing you induces a ton or errors and slow pace that otherwise would never exists. Against 99% of people you are never close enough to the table or out of control enough to get side edges. I bet when they are playing each other things are very different than when they are playing you :) .

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interesting read...I think my blocking technique will improve 10 fold :up:

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Off the table exercises:

1) Have a partner stand a few paces away from you with arms out to the side, holding a tennis ball in each hand. You stand in ready position. The partner has to drop the left or right ball, and you have to catch it with your playing hand before it bounces a second time. Have your partner feint to drop a few, and try to make it a challenge.

2) Stand against a wall, in ready position. Have a partner ready to throw a tennis ball at your body. You have to move out of the way, but in a way which simulates how you would move in a game - ie you must move your feet, and rotate in the direction you would rotate to prepare to play a shot.

There are others - but these are a good start.

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1) Have a partner stand a few paces away from you with arms out to the side, holding a tennis ball in each hand. You stand in ready position. The partner has to drop the left or right ball, and you have to catch it with your playing hand before it bounces a second time. Have your partner feint to drop a few, and try to make it a challenge.


Reminds me of something I saw on a TENNIS training video. You turn your back to your partner (who is about five to eight feet away), they bounce a tennis ball off the floor in your direction. You're supposed to turn around the moment you hear the ball hit the floor and catch it.

Also reminds me of a multiball exercise I did once - the feeder feeds RANDOM balls - short, long, topspin, backspin, left, right. You have to react from a ready position. LONG intervals between balls (at least at the beginning). Requires a good ball feeder, though.

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So many good tips here.
I usually stay on my toes, read their body language and try to anticipate where they are gg to place the ball.
Most times I got it right, but many time I was caught wrong footed.

The only exercise I do is, setup my robot together with my rebounding board.
I'll hit the ball from the robot, let it rebound from the rebounding board and hit it again, then the robot will
shoot out it's next ball and repeat. So I get balls from Robot, Board, Robot, Board and repeat again and again.


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