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Hi all,

Excuse the name change - long story...

I've spent a lot of time recently working on my forehand topspin and my SP chopping, but I'd like to get some recommendations on general drills for practising a modern defence style of play.

I play 3 hours/week against a robot, but in six weeks or so that number will raise significantly as I purchase my own. I also play another 12 hours or so against humans.

I'm thinking along the lines of "chop, chop, push, attack" type drills. Are there any you've used vs. robots or humans that I could try?

Thanks!

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[Other gear I've used]
Blades: Butterfly Defence 3, Butterfly Defence Pro, Butterfly Innerforce ZLC, Butterfly Innershield, DHS Power G7, Stiga Offensive Classic Carbon
SPs: Friendship 802 (1.5), TSP Spectol (1.3, 1.8, 2.1), TSP Spectol Speed (1.3), TSP Super Spinpips Chop Sponge 2 (0.5, 1.3)
LPs: Butterfly Feint Long II (1), Butterfly Feint Long III (0.5, 1.3), Tibhar Grass D.TecS (OX), TSP Curl P1-R (0.5, 1, 1.3), TSP Curl P4 (1.3)

Depending on your level of play you should probably not spend so many hours training with the robot. While robots are great to practice and improve specific elements of your game you will not learn how to play against human opponents. In fact playing against human opponents may actually be more difficult because you expect the same amount of spin in every ball.

In short: improve your base level and technique playing the robot but practice against human opponents as much as possible.

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Competition bats:
Win-tec power def Tibhar 5Q sound Power Update 1.8 * Spinlord Agenda ox
TSP Balsa 3.5 Tibhar Genius+Optimium sound 1.8 * Grass D-tecs ox

Put to rest:
Galaxy T10 Bluefire M2 2.0 Palio Ck531a ox
Victas Koji Matsushita Tibhar Genius+Optimium sound MAX * Spinlord Dornenglanz ox
Donic Defplay Senso Tibhar Aurus Sound Black max * Grass D-tecs ox

Check out my quest for my new blade here: http://ooakforum.com/viewtopic.php?f=58&t=23241
Current standings:
Butterfly Matshushita powerdefence * Joola Chen Weixing * Nittaku KVU * Nittaku Shake defense* Tibhar stratus power defense * Victas Koji Matsushita * Yasaka Sweeper * Win-Tec power defence

What robot do you plan to purchase? One benefit I got playing robot is the correct stroke by developing both my hand movement and foot movement. Anyway, Im using newgy and not familiar with other robot.

Although I'm a double inverted, I believe you can practice back hand chop and forehand spin effectively. Or you could vary chopping and blocking on your backhand and attacking on the forehand. I used the stored drills and plan the drill ahead before practicing.

Good luck on your practice.

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Enjoy the game. It is a never ending learning experience once you play and keep the ball on that 45 sq ft of space or should I say half of that space.

Sorry, can't reply to certain threads whilst st work. The proxy classified replying to this as Offensive & Tasteless. Jeez, thanks!

I'll be buying a fairly decent robot with programmable capabilities. I use a Newgy non-digital at the moment and although it's OK it's really frustrating having to change the head every time you want a different spin!

Elvis - yeah, when I get my new place I'll be using the robot 'as and when'. I've just been asked to play two additional days at another club which means I'll likely be playing every day bar Tuesday and Saturday against humans.

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My blog: "Learning to play: as a modern defender": http://ooakforum.com/viewtopic.php?f=58&t=22254
My YouTube channel: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCtazeX ... oICGS9bqNg
Join the OOAK Discord!: https://discord.gg/Yw2hYUdz3g

[Other gear I've used]
Blades: Butterfly Defence 3, Butterfly Defence Pro, Butterfly Innerforce ZLC, Butterfly Innershield, DHS Power G7, Stiga Offensive Classic Carbon
SPs: Friendship 802 (1.5), TSP Spectol (1.3, 1.8, 2.1), TSP Spectol Speed (1.3), TSP Super Spinpips Chop Sponge 2 (0.5, 1.3)
LPs: Butterfly Feint Long II (1), Butterfly Feint Long III (0.5, 1.3), Tibhar Grass D.TecS (OX), TSP Curl P1-R (0.5, 1, 1.3), TSP Curl P4 (1.3)

I modified the Falkenberg drill for modern defense as follows (assuming both players are RH):

Partner: feed backspin to BH
You: push to BH
Partner: loop to BH
You: Chop
Partner: drop/push
You: loop to BH
Partner: block down the line
You: loop to BH
Partner: block to BH
You: chop

Rinse and repeat. Just a few repititions can be pretty tiring. Your partner can mix in slow loops and loop drives to test you even more. Obviously this can be reversed for forehand chops or shortened or lengthened as desired. I mention this particular pattern because it involves pushing, chopping, looping vs underspin, and looping vs topspin all into one drill.

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Blade: Donic Defplay Senso V3
FH: Nittaku Hurricane Pro 3 Turbo Max
BH: VICTAS Spinpips D3 2.0

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Victas Koji Matsushita
Thibar Hybrid k1 euro max
TSP Curl p1-r 1.0

Sounds very nice, will give it try in my next training session