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I think with shakehand it is easier to chop if the serve has underspin or backhand drive/loop if with topspin. But I'm having trouble receiving with penhold. Most of the time I read the spin correctly but if I just push the balls gets 3rd ball attacked. If I spin around to drive/loop with my forehand (if the serve has topsin), half the time the return gets smashed to my wide forehand for a winner. And this is when I read the spin correctly. When I don't the ball goes into the net or pops up high.

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Push short?

Drive/Loop wide to their backhand?

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Addoy I don't play penhold, but against the penholders I play I always notice they have good strength looping ability and I have to be careful placing the serve and keeping it low or I get it back real fast. In fact I haven't played against a penholder that doesn't aggressively attack my serve. So I would suggest you go with the penholder flow and attack hard. If you miss lots to start with you will adjust as time goes on and get good at it (or change to shakehand . :wink: )

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RebornTTEvnglist wrote:
In fact I haven't played against a penholder that doesn't aggressively attack my serve.


Doesn't this mean that you're just putting your serves too high...

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Don't know, cos they don't land all their attacks. Certainly some may be too high, I don't claim to be perfect LOL. Just seemed to me the penholders I know seem to loop/hit aggressively.

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Silver wrote:
Push short?

Drive/Loop wide to their backhand?


That makes sense! Thanks. I'll try that next time. "Try" is the operative word. I guess I haven't been thinking about placement so much, only about spin. Hmmm, I think this bit of wisdom just increased my rating 100 points. :)

Reborn, I can't go back to shakehand! I already spent so much on penhold :) Btw, do you serve to your penhold opponent's backhand? So they must step around to loop with their forehand right? Which leaves their wide forehand open, unless they do Silver's advice of attacking to your backhand to remove the angle of return.

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The penholders I play can loop FH or BH (I think its more of a hit on BH actually). I have noticed if I can cut a serve into their body they have some more difficulty with it. Do you think BH serve to penholder is a weakness for most?

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If you can RPB, you won't have to step around to play a positive shot.

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I can RPB but if I mentally prepare to receive with RPB I get jammed up if the serve comes short, with underspin, or to my elbow so I just try to receive everything on my forehand rubber. I guess I need more work on my RPB/forehand switching. I just started doing RPB 2 weeks ago and I'm ok in drills, but in matches I use RPB probably less than 5% of the time. Still a long way till I can play like Wang Hao :)

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