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I could never get this... why don't a few more of the Chinese manufacturers make anti-spin rubbers?

There is the 804 by 729, which is barely an anti-spin and that's about it...no others are there?

I've suggested it to several manufacturers that I'm close to, and all say they appreciate the feedback, but never do anything about! Perhaps it's because none of the top CHinese players use anti, so they don't believe there is a market? Or perhaps their local market is still by far the biggest, so if anti does not sell there, it's not worth producing?

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... or they don't think it's much good ...

I think you're right, when you look at the rubbers top players use. Inverted and short pimples are viable options, long pimples can be used to some extent, but where are the anti players? I think long pips have usurped anti and that anti places a lower ceiling on your level than the other type of rubbers.

Why would the chinese want to play with a rubber that limits active play (most of their lp users play actively) unless they decided they needed to hanidcap themselves to give other countries a chance, or they just wanted to prove it could be done.

The cost argument and market size (lack of becuase they think it's no good ) is a possibility.

Debater, I'll let speedplay deal with you

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Another one bites the dust.

I second that thought.
Speedplay thought I am old and useless anyway, so he can swing at me instead.

I'm sure even the Chinese would have a HUGE number of intermediate players, where I'm sure anti would be quite viable... perhaps it just never caught on...

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I thought anti was fairly similar to short-medium pimples.

I guess similar to medium pimples, anti is not too good of a position for hitting consistency (SP is a bit better for aggressive attacking) or deception (LP seems to be better). Anti and medium pimples both offer a compromise in these two aspects, but not too many people have the ball feeling for this.

Hitting too hard with medium usually results in something like an LP hit, which could be a problem in fast attacking; while deception and pace control is not quite as good as using long pips suited for the same purpose.

I also think that being an inverted-type of topsheet, you can't have no sponge. And quite a lot of people like playing without sponge.

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Besides the Friendship 804 there are two more Chinese "anti's"; Meteor 835 and 835W, both either tacky or non-tacky, which makes for 4 types alltogether, which are rather fast and not very slick. The fact that Meteor is manufacturing these makes them a bit bizarre by definition since Meteor tends to fill the gaps other manufacturers leave open, for instance with their 8512 long pip (slow or fast, with a peculiar kind of grippiness), their 813 backside (maximum spin, but medium fast), their 9012 (a longish medium pip), or 575 (medium fast almost half-long short pip), etc. Maybe this signifies that the Chinese tend to think of anti's as an oddity, but not per se useless. I believe Goldway had a (968?) tacky anti, too, which was banned (?); Goldway, to me, resembles Meteor in manufactoring stuff that is a bit out of the ordinary. My impression is that in China anti's are mostly used to control/disrupt and attack, more like an alternative for medium pips than for long pips. Defensive (chopping&blocking) use seems quite possible, too; chopping with tacky anti's may produce just about enough backspin to force the opponent to loop slower/higher which provides opportunities for attack, and since returns can be quite fast and the amount of spin is easy to vary, chopping/blocking can be disturbing for the opponent.

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i know a "single-sided" shortpips penholder who has yasaka antipower on the reverse side of his paddle because he says it's more comfortable to rest his fingers on perhaps chinese tt companies could start manufacturing them and marketing them as an alternative to colored racket sheets.

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Interesting, i know nothing about these 2 Meteor rubbers. They are not listed on the ITTF as anti-spin rubbers though, so technically they are not.

I know the 2 Goldway rubbers as well, they were both regular inverted rubbers, don't remember an anti unless it was a long time ago.

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According to the ITTF, Yasaka Anti Power isn't an anti either.

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That's weird! Why would they not submit it as an anti... people looking for an antispin might just look on the list for one, and end up buying another one...

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LOL!!!

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May be they think anti is only suit for age 50 and above like our Dr...hahaha

It also suit for age 39, i play with meteor 835-w for 2 years now.

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39???? I have socks older than that:) You crazy kids.
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