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does not hold true for new ones. TH develops kind of spin reversal after 3 to 5 yr of playing only. After 8 yr ist about the same as Joola Timeless has from the start, and control is equal. With TL the only control problem that I found is that you have to get used to how the rubber reacts on underspin balls, which I most often chop into the net.

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are you saying that playing with the same rubber for 8 years will increase its spin reversal?

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S#1: Joola Wing Passion Fast, FH: 729 Cream 2.2, BH: 802-40 2.
S#2: Joola Trix Medium, FH: Hurricane 3 Neo 2, BH: 279 FX Lightning 2.2.
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S#4: Senso Waldner Carbon, FH: Apollo I 2.2, BH: Blowfish Plush Short Pimple Tensor.
S#4: Giant Dragon Kris Special, FH: Giant Dragon TaiChi Soft, BH: Giant Dragon Meteorite Soft.

A worn LP is often more frictionless than another pip, especially a newer pip, so yes it often will.

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Vintage anti spin rubber , I would be fascinated to see a rubber that is still in good condition after that period of time.

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Please view my blog, viewtopic.php?f=58&t=17571 , all the problems that I face in table tennis, I post on here, and I would very much appreciate it if you give your opinion on the matters.
S#1: Joola Wing Passion Fast, FH: 729 Cream 2.2, BH: 802-40 2.
S#2: Joola Trix Medium, FH: Hurricane 3 Neo 2, BH: 279 FX Lightning 2.2.
S#3: Galaxy 896, , BH: Pro XP 2.FH: Pro XP 2.2
S#4: Senso Waldner Carbon, FH: Apollo I 2.2, BH: Blowfish Plush Short Pimple Tensor.
S#4: Giant Dragon Kris Special, FH: Giant Dragon TaiChi Soft, BH: Giant Dragon Meteorite Soft.

yeah, I do, and much so!

Antis live long, if you make a fuss of them. My old Toni Hold is ten yr old, and I would not have needed to replace it if it were not for testing something better. The one before became almost that old, too.

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Equipment: Dr Neubauer Firewall+ - Butterfly Tenergy 05 - Spinlab Vortex 2.3 (red sponge)

Antis live long, if you make a fuss of them. My old Toni Hold is ten yr old, and I would not have needed to replace it if it were not for testing something better. The one before became almost that old, too.[/quote]
Let's say some anties live long ,some not.....Sure ,Toni Hold anties live long but I can't say this to my dear rubber Timeless...

Did it fall apart yet, or is everything still OK?

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Well ,up to now everything is OK with Timeless except the problems with the quality of the rubber.I am sure that next month I will need another one.The rubber and sponge separete..I reglued it but its sponge is so soft and different that same problem repeated.While trying to reglue it ,some holes occured especially to the bottom part of the rubber.But on the other hand the results of my matches are excellent with it.I don't know what to do.I don't want to pay this expensive price again and again in every two months.

Maybe if you never change blades it will last longer. Better results than Avalox Mo? How heavy is your bat?

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Maybe if you never change blades it will last longer. Better results than Avalox Mo? How heavy is your bat?[/quote]
Perhaps,but I use gluesheet ,so I changed it easily without giving any harm to the rubber.Yes better results than Avalox Mo.This is certain.As I have written before although it doesn't have massive spin reversal like treated Mo(By the way ,I think Timeless reversal is good) Timeless has a lot of other advantages.I attack like inverted,much easier to block topspins without making any mistakes,when you chop you don't always send float balls like Mo but sometimes loaded balls (I am not sure if this loaded balls because of the spinreversal effect or Timeless makes its own spin but how with this frictionless surface)and most important it is possiple to attack nearly every chopped ball with the correct timing and racket angle.My bat is very light one ,Hallmark Aurora.