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is this possible with juic neo anti? this has been my problem with anti, all of my chops with anti rubber see to have very little backspin/underspin. is generating of underspin possible with anti rubbers on short no-spin balls?

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Blade: Butterfly Gergely (Old School Rocks!)
FH: Donic Bluefire M3 Max
BH: Yasaka Anti-Power

Very little. You are limited by the topsheet grip. Your options are placement based or trying to fool the opponent into thinking there is more underspin than there actually is. Or twiddling.

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Timo Boll ALC ST
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BH Tibhar Evolution FX-S 1.8
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It's anti-spin - the topsheet has little or minimal friction. Why did you initially choose to use it?

thank you. now i really need to learn how to twiddle....


i like anti spin rubbers because it is easier to attack serves and when i flat drive, it makes no-spin balls that make the opponent's ball to go to the net.

thanks for the info guys. i've been trying my darn best to create underspin by varying my chops but to no avail. now i know why. Thanks sir.

But if i chop topspin balls, does it result in balls with underspin?

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Blade: Butterfly Gergely (Old School Rocks!)
FH: Donic Bluefire M3 Max
BH: Yasaka Anti-Power

Yes, if you chop topspin balls you can get a reasonable amount of backspin. However, you won't get as much as would with pimples or reversed.

You can certainly get some backspin with some of the more grippy anti rubbers, and Neo Anti will generate more than most as the topsheet is thin, a little grippy and the sponge very soft (and slow) so you can dig it in more.

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My past experience with the Yasaka Anti Power, backspin ball could be generated easily on knuckle balls, but not much.. Probably most anti acts this way.
Donic Alligator Anti --> No chance, it's almost acting like a brick wall.. Very sleek top..

That's all I know about anti and backspin, Sir.
Sorry I don't know about Neo Anti, so probably this slight information could be a little reference.

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I just finished testing Giant Dragon SOft Anti and that is softer than Neo-anti and much lighter. Generating back spin for most if not all Anti's are very hard to do off short non-spinny serves. I would suggest having someone practice short serves and practice some returns that will engage your offense on the next shot, One thing you can do is push deep down the FH side and flip your anti to your FH and deep chop your return (Maria Kretshimer) One thing I did like about the soft ANti is that if you like to chop with your FH, this rubber will product alot of backspin and drop short. One other thing you can do off serve is flip and use your inverted off dead serves to start the spin process going. Just some suggestions Neo is also a good rubber.

Peace GIG

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i came from this anti (yasaka anti power) before deciding to move to juic neo anti (JNA) because they say NNA is better in chopping and still offers attacking options. it's harder to generate a backspin on YAP and is definitely faster than JNA.

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Blade: Butterfly Gergely (Old School Rocks!)
FH: Donic Bluefire M3 Max
BH: Yasaka Anti-Power

thanks sir. now i realize that twiddling is almost a must for anti-rubber users.

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Blade: Butterfly Gergely (Old School Rocks!)
FH: Donic Bluefire M3 Max
BH: Yasaka Anti-Power

Yes, flicking with the anti or twiddling is a must. (If you push a backspin or no-spin ball with the anti you are dead meat against a half-decent player.) I think flicking is preferable as one of the (few!) positives of anti is that it is ok for flicking short balls - and besides, a push with the reverse is still only a push.

The current German 040 champion uses Butterfly Super Anti on both sides and gets plenty of underspin. Did you see that video?

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I think I saw a bit of it. The guy seemed fairly handy but I couldn't understand the tactics of his opponent. It would be interesting to see clips of some of the other matches he played in the tourney.

Also, he appeared to get a fair degree of backspin against topspin balls but not against no-spin or backspin balls.

Wow, softer than Neo Anti... that's soft!

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