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PostPosted: 14 Dec 2013, 06:34 
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THE GAMEr wrote:
I've said it already somewhere, but anti is not for me. I played with it for more than a month. Here's some notes on it:

Attacking: Bleh. I was extremely inconsistent, and even when I did attack, it was nothing special. This doesn't detract too much from anti's rep though. After all, noone uses it to attack (other than anti's actually made for it).

Pushing: Very consistent, but very hard to make pushes difficult to attack. The reflectoid gives nice spinny pushes; anti gives dead/slight topspin pushes.

Blocking: Anti is a blocking demon!!!! Consistent, easy, and good. That is all.

Chopping: VERY consistent. Unfortunately, it is also somewhat predictable and easy to attack against.

Flicking: Throw is too low. Flicking/flipping is almost impossible.

Conclusion: Anti for the defensive player. I like flicking and hitting on the BH too much to use it. I can chop with reflectoid....but I think I'll switch to something a little faster on the BH soon (Like LKT Rapid sound).


I think your verdict is a bit on the harsh side. I'm fairly certain that you didn't use Friendship 804, which attacks, pushes and flicks just fine; nor Tibhar Ellen Defense, which chops great, allowing a lot of variety in spin, so it isn't easy to attack against. There is a great variety of antispin rubbers, but as is the case with LPs, it isn't easy to find one that does it all...

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If Anti works for chopping which Anti and which thickness would you recommend ?

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Tenergy05fx wrote:
If Anti works for chopping which Anti and which thickness would you recommend ?


It depends on your intention and style. Some are better for modern defenders than for classic defenders. For instance, Hou Ying Chao (modern defender) played with Friendship 804 for a short while; it is not unlike defending with short pips, as it is not slow, and has some grip, so you can make your own spin and attack as well. It is said Yoo Se Hyuk (modern defender) played with Butterfly Super Anti (max thick) sometimes; this rubber, too, can make some spin on its own (not as much as Friendship 804) and allows spin-variation in classic defence, as well as attacks. For classic defence not too far away from the table there are antis like Tibhar Ellen Defence or Stiga Energy Absorber; they resemble the Butterfly anti to some degree, but are a little less easy to play with (Butterfly Super Anti is very easy to play with). For this style you would need a thickness of about 1.8mm (1.6mm for the Stiga, which is harder), to prevent losing control when the rubber bottoms out. If you are used to play really far away from the table, a faster anti is generally better, like the Tibhar Ellen Offence (same topsheet, harder sponge). And if all you wish is to be able to return any ball whatsoever, a frictionless anti with high control would be convenient, with its thickness again around 1.8 mm. But thin-sponged classic antispin rubbers like the Tibhar Ellen Defence or the Stiga Energy Absorber will work for that as well (1.5 mm or less); you need to adapt your chopping stroke, though, so that you go under the ball, to prevent bottoming out. Still, at the end of the day, it is a matter of personal preference as well, or perhaps mostly...

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I am Playing modern defence, use Dtechs 0,5 at the moment.
Which would be Best suited for this style ?

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Tenergy05fx wrote:
I am Playing modern defence, use Dtechs 0,5 at the moment.
Which would be Best suited for this style ?


You should rule aout any modern frictionless anti, they are not good for that. There are a few in Sweden who chops with Yasaka Anti Power.

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Tenergy05fx wrote:
I am Playing modern defence, use Dtechs 0,5 at the moment.
Which would be Best suited for this style ?


The Butterfly Super Anti would probably come closest to the Grass Dtecs. I would think in 1.9 mm to make the most of spin-variation and enable attacks. In 1.5 mm it would be slightly faster, possibly offering somewhat less control but more reversal. Red for highest degree of reversal, black for highest degree of spin-variation (and easier attacking).

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Kees is spot on. :up: I seen a guy in a div 1 match using Super Anti. His hitting and chopping with it was very effective. :rock: Deadly as a matter of fact! :devil:


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FH: RAYSTORM 1.7
BH: BEST ANTI(THICK)RED
i am an anti chopper and play at a decent league level-3 first divisions.
i have tried loads of antis and the best one for me is nittaku best anti spin(max thickness in red)
the throw angle is fairly low and its very consistant.i did not like butterfly super anti.
juice neo and yasaka antipower are also worth a try and are soft and easy to play with.
check e bay for used sheets.


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I have also been chopping with Best Anti. You have to work a bit to produce substantial spin. It is pretty easy to send back a floater, but this won't give good players much problems. You can keep the ball in play that way, but not do much else. With good technique and racket speed, cutting under the ball, you can get a good bit of underspin that will keep people from easy attacks.

The other area in which Best Anti excels, at least for me, is attacking. Any ball with some underpin can be pretty easily flat pick hit, or even spun a bit. Especially short serves to my back hand can be hit for winners unless they are really deep. Blocking is good, too, as it is slow enough to take most of the speed out of a hard shot and it really dies on the table.

As you can tell, I highly recommend it. I'd also recommend reading Kees' excellent post on playing with anti. I learned a lot.


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I have ordered a sheet og NBA.
So this Will be My first test.

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