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 Post subject: Re: Dr. Neubauer Bison
PostPosted: 01 Aug 2016, 05:02 
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A further session with the Bison today.Attacking shots starting to work better. Had a visitor to the club who was a reasonable player with decent topspin on either wing. He couldn't handle the anti and thought it reacted like a long pip.

I am still blocking inconsistently but the shots are beginning to become automatic rather than me having to think about what I am doing. I find that a perfectly executed block leads to my opponent netting and they are over hitting the longer ones.

The Bison is superb for returning heavily spun serves and this is a must for any backhand rubber I use. I think I am on the verge of breakthrough but still need to practice against more loopers.

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 Post subject: Re: Dr. Neubauer Bison
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What do you think about this video (subject:attacking with anti)

http://youtube.com/watch?v=eGAbuCYi6l8


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 Post subject: Re: Dr. Neubauer Bison
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What do you think about this video (subject:attacking with anti)

http://youtube.com/watch?v=eGAbuCYi6l8

I belive he is using Gorilla something similar. That stroke is rather easy to do with any anti, MP or LP. Attacking back spin is what most rubbers with little grip excels in. But for the stroke to be leathal you need speed and that is difficult with the super slow antis like Transformer or Bison.

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 Post subject: Re: Dr. Neubauer Bison
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Def-attack wrote:
king pong wrote:
What do you think about this video (subject:attacking with anti)

http://youtube.com/watch?v=eGAbuCYi6l8

I belive he is using Gorilla something similar. That stroke is rather easy to do with any anti, MP or LP. Attacking back spin is what most rubbers with little grip excels in. But for the stroke to be leathal you need speed and that is difficult with the super slow antis like Transformer or Bison.

Yes, he is using Gorilla 0.6 which is about the fastest slick anti you can get so attacking underspin will generate a lot of pace. You can still do the same stroke with Buffalo or Bison though your shot won't be as fast. I personally feel that his stroke is a little bit "too big" and I prefer to use less arm and more wrist action.

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 Post subject: Re: Dr. Neubauer Bison
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 Post subject: Re: Dr. Neubauer Bison
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Returned to long pimples for new season. Will renew the experiment in May 2017 God willing.
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Which blade are you using with your long pips?

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 Post subject: Re: Dr. Neubauer Bison
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Hi Matt,
I am using my Stratus Powerdefense but thinking of putting a sheet on the Matador as. I need a backup blade. I don't want to remove the Bison though.
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 Post subject: Re: Dr. Neubauer Bison
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I was searching for many years for the replacement of my old Dr Neubauer Scalpel.
I have tried number of antis - Joola Amy - too fast, too high throw.
Dr Neubauer Anti Special - too fast.
Dr Neubauer Buffalo - too dead, too slow, high throw when blocking against high top spin shots from my opponent, and sometimes ball from the top spin shot of my opponent would just drop into the net for no reason.

Dr Neubauer Bison feels just right. It is low throw, it has high spin reversal, I can not feel significant difference in spin reversal compare to my old Dr Neubauer Scalpel.

All antis from the list above I have tried on the same blade - Tibhar Defense Plus, my blade for many years - slow defensive blade, so I can tell that Bison is somewhat more live (but not higher speed) comparing to Buffalo, which is good because on the reflex blocks I have time only to put blade in front of the ball without additional push so ball would just die on the blade with Buffalo. Lifting and attacking is easier than with Buffalo, ball trajectory is flatter. So I decided to, finally, after lot of searching, switch to some legal rubber :).

My Bison is 1.5 mm black.

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 Post subject: Re: Dr. Neubauer Bison
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I am thinking of trying Bison or Buffalo now that the season is over. I have been using Mega Block since November and Transformer before that. Is there anyone using Bison in 1,8 mm? That is the one I am most interested in for a try. How do you like it? What blade do you use it on?

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 Post subject: Re: Dr. Neubauer Bison
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Dr Neubauer Bison 1.5mm Test
https://youtu.be/lM8nIj2ZGrs

Dr Neubauer Buffalo 1.8mm Test
https://youtu.be/_bdvDEinyVU

Both videos are with the same blade for better comparison. I am an average recreational player, who played for years with Dr Neubauer Scalpel 0.6mm, and I found Bison to be very similar.

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 Post subject: Re: Dr. Neubauer Bison
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Vladojica wrote:
Dr Neubauer Bison 1.5mm Test
https://youtu.be/lM8nIj2ZGrs

Dr Neubauer Buffalo 1.8mm Test
https://youtu.be/_bdvDEinyVU

Both videos are with the same blade for better comparison. I am an average recreational player, who played for years with Dr Neubauer Scalpel 0.6mm, and I found Bison to be very similar.


It almost looks like you got more back spin from Buffalo, is that correct? How do they differ from each other?

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 Post subject: Re: Dr. Neubauer Bison
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Def-attack wrote:
Vladojica wrote:
Dr Neubauer Bison 1.5mm Test
https://youtu.be/lM8nIj2ZGrs

Dr Neubauer Buffalo 1.8mm Test
https://youtu.be/_bdvDEinyVU

Both videos are with the same blade for better comparison. I am an average recreational player, who played for years with Dr Neubauer Scalpel 0.6mm, and I found Bison to be very similar.


It almost looks like you got more back spin from Buffalo, is that correct? How do they differ from each other?


It seems the same to me when I am watching these videos, because with Buffalo some spins from my partner go straight into the table, not even reaches the net.

But what I actually feel is that with the Bison most of the balls that are returned are with flatter trajectory, and shorter, so my opponent got much less opportunity to even try second top spin with a full swing, so you can not see reversal from second spin which will be higher.

Also I felt that with Buffalo sometimes I just pop up ball, and sometimes go into the net with just slight change in blade angle, with the Bison I don't have that feel.

For me Bison feel much more playable, the ball always goes where I want, no surprises like sometimes with the Buffalo. It is just my personal feel. Maybe I am affected by the earlier playing with Scalpel, and Bison feels very similar in terms of reversal and ball trajectory and speed.

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 Post subject: Re: Dr. Neubauer Bison
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Did you try Bison in both 1.8 and 1.5 mm? I read that 1.8 is slower and more easy for attacking, without loosing much of the spin reversal.

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I tried only 1.5mm.
Versions with thinner sponge are faster so I don't know if it is easier to attack with faster or slower version, by pushing or lifting. I thought that attacking with thinner version is easier because thinner are faster. I attack only by pushing, I miss a lot of balls while lifting.

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 Post subject: Re: Dr. Neubauer Bison
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Is there anyone using Bison in 1,8 mm? That is the one I am most interested in for a try. How do you like it? What blade do you use it on?

Yes I do...see my signature. I like it a lot though I never tested MB or transformer so I can't make the direct comparisons. I play it on the Matador and have also tested in on Jackpot. I similarly slow than the Buffalo 1.8 in passive or short game but more dynamic in attacking probably due to the different pips structure (Bison has longer pips than Buffalo). I don't see a big difference in the spin reversal and if so Bison might have a slight edge. The major difference imho is that Bison has a lower throw angle on blocks (Buffalo tends to pop up if you get the blade angle wrong though still with a lot of underspin on it) and generally feels a little livelier. The Buffalo has more of a dead feel. It's easier to attack (lift or aggressive push) with Bison and you get more acceleration on the ball.

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