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 Post subject: Re: Dr. Neubauer Bison
PostPosted: 19 Apr 2017, 06:46 
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Tried 1,8 mm DrN Bison on my Revolution blade. Nice rubber, very non-bendy (stiff, like cardboard). Clearly faster than Mega Block 1,5 mm. Faster than 1,5 mm Transformer on a Stiga Carbonado blade. And also clearly less spin reversal compared to Transformer and Mega Block. Bison reminds me about DMS BEAST in how it behaves, but BEAST is a little softer and maybe less spin reversal. Bison is however more dynamic and it is pretty slow when blocking but it has gears, so when attacking it has much more speed than Mega Block or Transformer. It is more allround. Angle is a little lower than Transformer, but maybe not as low as Mega Block. I guess spin reversal could be better if I tried it on a different blade. What I liked was that attacks were better and with more speed, but without the cork screw balls and lots of reversal I won't get many chances to attack, besides attacking serves. I have removed it but I might try it again and with the robot compare a few antis to each other, on both Revolution and on Carbonado. I am hoping (if I don't wreck any more antis when removing them) to compare Bison with Transformer 1,5, Mega Block 1,0 and 1,5 mm. I might end up with Transfomer or Mega Block 1,0...

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 Post subject: Re: Dr. Neubauer Bison
PostPosted: 23 Apr 2017, 06:37 
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I tried to keep a scientiffic approach to testing anti's concerning blocking length and back spin. So I let a robot and fixed bats decide (all 4 testet on Stiga CArbonado 190, and all but Mega-Block 1,5 mm tested on Revolution blade). Mega-Block 1,5 mm has by far the shortest blocks, even shorter on Carbonado than Revolution ( :o ). But it looks like Transformer has the most spin reversal, even though Mega-Block 1,5 comes close. For some reason Mega-Blocok 1,0 mm is rather far away fro 1,5 mm. Bison and Mega-Block 1,0 are pretty similar. Bison seems to be slower on Carbonado.
That rubbers seems slower on Carbonado might have someting to do with how well I could attach the blades to the iron box.


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 Post subject: Re: Dr. Neubauer Bison
PostPosted: 28 Aug 2017, 22:01 
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Def-attack wrote:
I tried to keep a scientiffic approach to testing anti's concerning blocking length and back spin. So I let a robot and fixed bats decide (all 4 testet on Stiga CArbonado 190, and all but Mega-Block 1,5 mm tested on Revolution blade). Mega-Block 1,5 mm has by far the shortest blocks, even shorter on Carbonado than Revolution ( :o ). But it looks like Transformer has the most spin reversal, even though Mega-Block 1,5 comes close. For some reason Mega-Blocok 1,0 mm is rather far away fro 1,5 mm. Bison and Mega-Block 1,0 are pretty similar. Bison seems to be slower on Carbonado.
That rubbers seems slower on Carbonado might have someting to do with how well I could attach the blades to the iron box.


The most useful review I have read. The video is the icing on the cake. Thank you, Def-attack.

A few questions.

1. How is the durability of the Bison?
2. Does it require maintenance like Der Materialspezialist Pro Anti Clean?
3. I read some reviews about the Buffalo - in one case, it developed bubbles after a week and in another case wrinkles were formed when trying to remove and glue it on another blade. Any such findings with the Bison?
4. Can it be glued using regular glue or does it need a glue sheet?
5. Do you think it will go well with Dr.Neubauer Hercules blade? For shorter blocks, low throw angle etc?


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 Post subject: Re: Dr. Neubauer Bison
PostPosted: 28 Aug 2017, 22:18 
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l.krishna@yahoo.com wrote:
Def-attack wrote:
I tried to keep a scientiffic approach to testing anti's concerning blocking length and back spin. So I let a robot and fixed bats decide (all 4 testet on Stiga CArbonado 190, and all but Mega-Block 1,5 mm tested on Revolution blade). Mega-Block 1,5 mm has by far the shortest blocks, even shorter on Carbonado than Revolution ( :o ). But it looks like Transformer has the most spin reversal, even though Mega-Block 1,5 comes close. For some reason Mega-Blocok 1,0 mm is rather far away fro 1,5 mm. Bison and Mega-Block 1,0 are pretty similar. Bison seems to be slower on Carbonado.
That rubbers seems slower on Carbonado might have someting to do with how well I could attach the blades to the iron box.


The most useful review I have read. The video is the icing on the cake. Thank you, Def-attack.

A few questions.

1. How is the durability of the Bison?
2. Does it require maintenance like Der Materialspezialist Pro Anti Clean?
3. I read some reviews about the Buffalo - in one case, it developed bubbles after a week and in another case wrinkles were formed when trying to remove and glue it on another blade. Any such findings with the Bison?
4. Can it be glued using regular glue or does it need a glue sheet?
5. Do you think it will go well with Dr.Neubauer Hercules blade? For shorter blocks, low throw angle etc?


I have not used Bison more than one session, so I can't answer your questions. But I used DMS Pro Clean and that did not help, almost the opposite... not sure why.

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 Post subject: Re: Dr. Neubauer Bison
PostPosted: 28 Aug 2017, 22:32 
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Def-attack wrote:
l.krishna@yahoo.com wrote:
Def-attack wrote:
I tried to keep a scientiffic approach to testing anti's concerning blocking length and back spin. So I let a robot and fixed bats decide (all 4 testet on Stiga CArbonado 190, and all but Mega-Block 1,5 mm tested on Revolution blade). Mega-Block 1,5 mm has by far the shortest blocks, even shorter on Carbonado than Revolution ( :o ). But it looks like Transformer has the most spin reversal, even though Mega-Block 1,5 comes close. For some reason Mega-Blocok 1,0 mm is rather far away fro 1,5 mm. Bison and Mega-Block 1,0 are pretty similar. Bison seems to be slower on Carbonado.
That rubbers seems slower on Carbonado might have someting to do with how well I could attach the blades to the iron box.


The most useful review I have read. The video is the icing on the cake. Thank you, Def-attack.

A few questions.

1. How is the durability of the Bison?
2. Does it require maintenance like Der Materialspezialist Pro Anti Clean?
3. I read some reviews about the Buffalo - in one case, it developed bubbles after a week and in another case wrinkles were formed when trying to remove and glue it on another blade. Any such findings with the Bison?
4. Can it be glued using regular glue or does it need a glue sheet?
5. Do you think it will go well with Dr.Neubauer Hercules blade? For shorter blocks, low throw angle etc?


I have not used Bison more than one session, so I can't answer your questions. But I used DMS Pro Clean and that did not help, almost the opposite... not sure why.


the neubauer rubbers have a different method of getting Slick, the msp spray has the opposite effect on them and should only be used for msp products

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