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Apparently so...
Sucks to be a minority, I'll tell you that.

No, not everyone is biased, it is just easy to enter that state of mind when you are the recipient of the negative affects.

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Just as easy for the majority to say that we are as you stated. It cuts both ways.

I am not trying to criticise anyone, I just felt that after reading the article, it was somewhat of a one sided argument.

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Please view my blog, viewtopic.php?f=58&t=17571 , all the problems that I face in table tennis, I post on here, and I would very much appreciate it if you give your opinion on the matters.
S#1: Joola Wing Passion Fast, FH: 729 Cream 2.2, BH: 802-40 2.
S#2: Joola Trix Medium, FH: Hurricane 3 Neo 2, BH: 279 FX Lightning 2.2.
S#3: Galaxy 896, , BH: Pro XP 2.FH: Pro XP 2.2
S#4: Senso Waldner Carbon, FH: Apollo I 2.2, BH: Blowfish Plush Short Pimple Tensor.
S#4: Giant Dragon Kris Special, FH: Giant Dragon TaiChi Soft, BH: Giant Dragon Meteorite Soft.

Velonstrials, can you clarify your statement? How is a less spinny and higher bouncy ball a benefit for a wider community of TT players?

These new characteristics of the ball increase the ease of which the double inverted can counter loop, loop and all basic double inverted strokes, this is mainly due to the higher bounces which places it in an ideal position, and the reduction in speed and spin makes their shots easier in general. As stated by others, this reduces the effectiveness of chopping, spin reversal and other defensive tactics.

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Please view my blog, viewtopic.php?f=58&t=17571 , all the problems that I face in table tennis, I post on here, and I would very much appreciate it if you give your opinion on the matters.
S#1: Joola Wing Passion Fast, FH: 729 Cream 2.2, BH: 802-40 2.
S#2: Joola Trix Medium, FH: Hurricane 3 Neo 2, BH: 279 FX Lightning 2.2.
S#3: Galaxy 896, , BH: Pro XP 2.FH: Pro XP 2.2
S#4: Senso Waldner Carbon, FH: Apollo I 2.2, BH: Blowfish Plush Short Pimple Tensor.
S#4: Giant Dragon Kris Special, FH: Giant Dragon TaiChi Soft, BH: Giant Dragon Meteorite Soft.

It would reduce the spin an inverted player can make and that makes a loop harder, it is the spin that brings the loop back down. We need the balls to actually test them befroe any conclusion can be made.

So you are effectively saying that Adham knows this all along? If this is true, then he is actually lying again for the benefit of the silent "majority"... Hadn't he repeatedly said this is to benefit defensive players, which happen to be a very small minority, including "us" at OOAK. Why did he do that?

Not necessarily. Tests by Chinese national team players have shown the new plastic ball bounces faster so the dwell time is shorter for loopers. These players can increase dwell time by simply switching to a softer/more elastic blade, and spin at the same amount. Also, some CNT women players who test the new ball using Tenergy style rubbers on their fh have said it's actually easier to spin accurately than the old 40mm ball.

Haggisv, become famous and rich, be the first supplier to sell the new balls.

There is lots of conflicting evidence, I suspect that it is said to be "better for defenders" just to keep us quite...

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Please view my blog, viewtopic.php?f=58&t=17571 , all the problems that I face in table tennis, I post on here, and I would very much appreciate it if you give your opinion on the matters.
S#1: Joola Wing Passion Fast, FH: 729 Cream 2.2, BH: 802-40 2.
S#2: Joola Trix Medium, FH: Hurricane 3 Neo 2, BH: 279 FX Lightning 2.2.
S#3: Galaxy 896, , BH: Pro XP 2.FH: Pro XP 2.2
S#4: Senso Waldner Carbon, FH: Apollo I 2.2, BH: Blowfish Plush Short Pimple Tensor.
S#4: Giant Dragon Kris Special, FH: Giant Dragon TaiChi Soft, BH: Giant Dragon Meteorite Soft.

When that happens haggisv, don't forget that we are you friends . Just to be safe, adopt the "just-in-time" method of stocking inventory. You don't want to be caught with excess inventory just in case the ITTF change the rules again.

Yep I agree! Not worth arguing about guys... we're all on the same side here.

I've asked Samsonov (who chairs the Athletes commission) to hear his view on the testing. I'll ask William Henzel as well, as he's also on that commission.

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It has just occurred to me. We know, that Samsonov did not test the plastic balls before September 2011. Given he is a top player, no other top player probably tested these balls. So the question is: who the hell did test the balls before the BoD passed their decision? There are only 2 logical possibilities: either the BoD members did it themselves, but then we would have already heard something about it, or NOBODY. So, the conclusion is, they probably voted for something they have no idea about.

Adham's answers seems to imply that the balls have not been finalised yet, and that the testing and improvement is a continuing process.

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