Thanks GMan4911
So for players that don't play tournament, which is probably the great majority, the fees go up from $49 to $75. That's quite a hike, although it's probably cheap compared to most sports.
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| Author: | mynamenotbob [ 07 Oct 2015, 07:29 ] |
| Post subject: | USATT raises annual fee from $49 to $75, axes ratings fee |
October 6, 2015 To the USATT Family, It is my sincere pleasure to be writing to you today with some very exciting news, which coincidentally falls on the one-year anniversary of my tenure as the CEO of USA Table Tennis. After spending the last six months studying many of the issues surrounding our membership program, I am pleased to inform you today that, at my recommendation, the USATT Board of Directors has approved a proposal to modify our membership levels to allow you, our members and key stakeholders, to better engage with the organization in a manner you see best. The basis of the modification is to eliminate ratings fees. This will allow our more frequent users unlimited play in sanctioned events, while at same time allowing those who do not play frequently to "pay as they play" by providing unlimited access to tournament passes. We strongly believe that the flexibility in the new membership levels will increase the level and amount of play in USATT sanctioned events system-wide. An additional benefit of the platform, which will go into effect on January 1, 2016, will be to allow leagues to apply for "sanctioning," with those leagues engaging in the USATT ratings system as further outlined below. Leagues will not be required to apply for sanctioning however, and USATT, through an agreement with our new membership management partner, Simply Compete, will continue to support a league ratings system for leagues that prefer not to officially sanction those events. The new membership levels are as follows (see chart below for pricing): General Members. No ratings fees for USATT Sanctioned Tournaments, USATT Events (US Open, US National Championships), and/or USATT Sanctioned Leagues. USATT will continue to offer multi-year memberships under the "General Membership" category. Associate Members. No membership fee. May pay on a per-event basis as outlined below. Associate Memberships will only be offered on a year-to-year basis, and Associate Members may not participate in USATT Sanctioned Leagues. (Please note that, in accordance with the USATT By-Laws, Associate Members may not vote in elections.) The new membership pricing, which will go into effect on November 15, 2015, is as follows: Membership Type Associate General Adult 1-year $0 $75 Adult 3-year n/a $210 Adult 5-year n/a $325 Junior 1-year n/a $45 Junior 3-year n/a $125 Collegiate 1-Year n/a $45 Household 1-Year n/a $150 Household 3-year n/a n/a NCTTA n/a $45 Lifetime n/a $1,300 Tournament Pass (sanctioned) $20 n/a Tournament Pass (USATT events) $25 n/a Please note the following with regard to the timing and implementation of the new membership levels: There is no additional fee for those members currently in good standing. New membership rates will go into effect on November 15, 2015. New 3-year, 5-year and lifetime memberships may not be renewed or purchased before November 15, 2015 (if you wish to renew or purchase one of those membership levels before November 15, 2015, please call Andrew Horn at 719-866-4583, x. 5). Memberships renewed or new memberships purchased between November 15, 2015 and December 31, 2015 will expire on December 31 of the expiration year. For example, if you purchase a new 1-year membership on November 18, 2015, your expiration date will be December 31, 2016. You must be an Associate Member to purchase a tournament pass. Ratings fees will be discontinued on January 1, 2016. Over the course of the next several weeks, we will be working with tournament directors and our sanctioning coordinators to ensure proper implementation of the new fee structure. As noted earlier, in January, USATT, in partnership with Simply Compete, will be assuming control of the League Rating system that was previously operated and managed by Robert Mayer. As part of this transition, USATT will now offer leagues the opportunity to operate as a "sanctioned league," with the primary difference being that "sanctioned league" matches will now be factored in to USATT ratings. In order to properly process league ratings, all league participants (whether sanctioned or unsanctioned) must be USATT Associate or General Members. USATT will be providing an on-line tool for participants and league directors to register and manage league participant membership data. Unsanctioned Leagues will operate similarly to prior years and match results will not be included in the USATT ratings calculation. All league participants must, at a minimum, be USATT Associate Members, which is free. There will be no additional fees to the league or its members. Sanctioned Leagues will allow leagues to apply match results to USATT ratings on a .5 multiplier basis (e.g., if a regular tournament point exchange was 8, the Sanctioned League point exchange will be 4). All sanctioned league participants must be USATT General Members. I will be updating our membership further on the League Sanctioning process in the coming weeks. I would be remiss to not take this opportunity to thank Robert Mayer, who for years has dedicated his time, resources, and energy to operating our league system. The good news is that Robert will continue to be integrally involved in the development, deployment and operation of our new league rating systems. Robert, USATT's league system would never have been successful without you. With the US National Championships right around the corner in December, the Olympic Games less than a year away, and other new developments coming soon, I hope you share my excitement in what lies ahead for USA Table Tennis. As always, I am available to answer any questions you may have. Respectfully, Gordon Kaye CEO USA Table Tennis |
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| Author: | haggisv [ 07 Oct 2015, 10:37 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: USATT raises annual fee from $49 to $75, axes ratings fe |
Associate membership is free though. I'm uncertain what the previous structure was like, but will fees go up for most people, assuming they stay in the same category? |
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| Author: | BRS [ 07 Oct 2015, 10:49 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: USATT raises annual fee from $49 to $75, axes ratings fe |
It's a discount if you play a lot of tournaments. They eliminated a $7 per tournament rating fee and raised the membership by $26. So if you play four or more tournaments a year you come out ahead. I usually play ten. If you don't want to play a lot of tournaments or they don't exist in your area, you can pay $20 per event and no membership fee. It seems like a well thought out and player-friendly arrangement. They want to stop the fee structure putting people off entering tournaments. Which is smart because competing in rated events is what turns a fun social game into a life-devouring psycho obsession. Or at least it did with me. |
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| Author: | haggisv [ 07 Oct 2015, 12:57 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: USATT raises annual fee from $49 to $75, axes ratings fe |
So what sort of member is the title referring to? Quote: USATT raises annual fee from $49 to $75
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| Author: | GMan4911 [ 07 Oct 2015, 13:32 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: USATT raises annual fee from $49 to $75, axes ratings fe |
haggisv wrote: So what sort of member is the title referring to? Quote: USATT raises annual fee from $49 to $75 That would be the General Member. The current fee structure: Memberships Adult 1 Year - $49 For all players 18 and up 3 Year - $130 For all players 18 and up 5 Year - $200 For all players 18 and up Junior 1 Year - $25 For all players 17 and under 3 Year - $60 For all players 14 and under Collegiate 1 Year - $25 Must provide proof of full-time enrollment at an accredited college or university Household 1 Year - $90 For one family living at the same address 3 Year - $250 (Up to 2 adults and any number of minor children) One-Time Tournament Pass 1 Tournament $10 For players who have never played in an officially sanctioned USATT tournament or have who have never been a member of USATT Tournament rating fee (per tournament) - $7 |
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| Author: | haggisv [ 07 Oct 2015, 14:00 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: USATT raises annual fee from $49 to $75, axes ratings fe |
Thanks GMan4911 So for players that don't play tournament, which is probably the great majority, the fees go up from $49 to $75. That's quite a hike, although it's probably cheap compared to most sports.
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| Author: | GMan4911 [ 07 Oct 2015, 14:33 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: USATT raises annual fee from $49 to $75, axes ratings fe |
haggisv wrote: So for players that don't play tournament, which is probably the great majority, the fees go up from $49 to $75. That's quite a hike, although it's probably cheap compared to most sports. The folks who don't play tournaments will probably end up not renewing. Ever since USATT stopped publishing the print magazine, there's really no reason to remain a member if you don't play tournaments. The ones who play 1-3 per year will probably opt for the tournament pass. |
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| Author: | LOOPOVER [ 07 Oct 2015, 21:39 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: USATT raises annual fee from $49 to $75, axes ratings fe |
It should be interesting to see how many past inactive members are inspired to do the $20 pass 1--2 times a year. |
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| Author: | BRS [ 07 Oct 2015, 23:58 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: USATT raises annual fee from $49 to $75, axes ratings fe |
I don't know if the great majority of members don't play tournaments. I would be very surprised if that were the case. There are only about 8000 members and with tournaments all over the country it seems like there must be close to that many unique tournament players in a year. Remember there are hardly any leagues here, so unless you enter a tourney you are only playing practice matches and there is no practical way to track your progress. |
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| Author: | pgpg [ 08 Oct 2015, 00:12 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: USATT raises annual fee from $49 to $75, axes ratings fe |
BRS wrote: I don't know if the great majority of members don't play tournaments. I would be very surprised if that were the case. There are only about 8000 members and with tournaments all over the country it seems like there must be close to that many unique tournament players in a year. Remember there are hardly any leagues here, so unless you enter a tourney you are only playing practice matches and there is no practical way to track your progress. USATT had singles league program for quite some time, so you can just create new one for your club and track your progress that way. Can even make it private so no one sees the results. Don't need to be USATT member either. League rating is independent from USATT tournament one - see my signature. http://www.usatt.net/league/singles/exi ... eagues.asp |
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| Author: | LOOPOVER [ 08 Oct 2015, 00:39 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: USATT raises annual fee from $49 to $75, axes ratings fe |
BRS wrote: I don't know if the great majority of members don't play tournaments. I would be very surprised if that were the case. There are only about 8000 members and with tournaments all over the country it seems like there must be close to that many unique tournament players in a year. Remember there are hardly any leagues here, so unless you enter a tourney you are only playing practice matches and there is no practical way to track your progress. Per TT Spin Membership Statistics (USATT) .... Current membership has 2,211 who have played in a tournament within the past 5 years .... |
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| Author: | iskandar taib [ 09 Oct 2015, 11:34 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: USATT raises annual fee from $49 to $75, axes ratings fe |
haggisv wrote: Thanks GMan4911 So for players that don't play tournament, which is probably the great majority, the fees go up from $49 to $75. That's quite a hike, although it's probably cheap compared to most sports. Actually, for players that don't play tournaments, the fee goes down to zero. They can become "associate members". Iskandar |
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| Author: | irenic [ 09 Oct 2015, 12:45 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: USATT raises annual fee from $49 to $75, axes ratings fe |
LOOPOVER wrote: BRS wrote: I don't know if the great majority of members don't play tournaments. I would be very surprised if that were the case. There are only about 8000 members and with tournaments all over the country it seems like there must be close to that many unique tournament players in a year. Remember there are hardly any leagues here, so unless you enter a tourney you are only playing practice matches and there is no practical way to track your progress. Per TT Spin Membership Statistics (USATT) .... Current membership has 2,211 who have played in a tournament within the past 5 years .... I looked at that page and it's surprising how few people play their tournaments. Current members who've played in the last year is only around 1000, and at any time in the past is 3000, which means less than half (of 8000) of those paying have ever played, and 7/8 payed last year for practically nothing. |
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| Author: | RebornTTEvnglist [ 09 Oct 2015, 16:42 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: USATT raises annual fee from $49 to $75, axes ratings fe |
Unless there are clubs that require USATT membership to be able to play at the club...which is what happens in Australia. |
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| Author: | irenic [ 09 Oct 2015, 17:49 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: USATT raises annual fee from $49 to $75, axes ratings fe |
I don't believe that's the case. USATT private league ratings are actually free on their website, and it's such a simple process that a $7/person tournament rating fee is pure profit. It's unclear what value the new $20 fee is supposed to add except a sense of legitimacy by associating with the national org. How much is australia tt membership fee and what does it provide? |
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