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PostPosted: 07 Aug 2009, 09:47 
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Wow that post is an absolute gem!!! Thanks a lot for sharing that with us Brian!!!

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Thanks for the reply Brian, very interesting.

I checked out your website but the video clips took ages to load so I ended up watching a couple of the reloaded samples on your YouTube channel instead.

You say if you have your opponents "style profile", then that is all you need to have a good day. Without asking you to give away your "livelihood" what briefly goes in to making up a style profile ie what does it consist of?

Also, does this mean you adapt your game to take advantage of your opponents weaknesses rather than play your game and impose your strengths on them? Does this not get you in to difficulty in that you are in danger of neglecting your own best parts of your game in the quest to take advantage of their "worst" ie you compromise your game? It will also require a very good all round game to be able to change tactics and style and be able to perform the best shot sequence to execute at the end of the game. What do you recommend to players who don't have that all round game but discover a weakness of an oponent and need to be able to exploit it in that particular match at that time.

Also, at my level I'm not proficient in many aspects of the game in terms of shot performance, let alone the mental approach to table tennis. What type of thoughts or mind set would you recommend to someone who is not at a intermediate or advanced level to be thinking about when they play a match. By this I mean, sometimes people recommend me to concentrate on playing my forehand correctly, or concentrate on getting back to my recovery position - technical parts of the game, rather than mental, but do you recommend carrying these types of thoughts about the technical side of a game in to a match or do you recommend concentrating only on the strategy ie what works or doesn't rather than thinking about why it does or doesn't work.

Lastly - I know lots of questions, but I think the mental side of table tennis is often overlooked and this is a great opportunity to discuss it - how do you develop the mental ability to recognise during the game how it is developing from a strategic point of view. Often when I play I come straight from work and carry other thoughts on to the table or I just struggle to focus so games can pass me by with me either forgetting what my tactics were - or even remembering any of the points I've just played. I'm good at watching and developing tactics for other people, but very bad at being able to do that for myself during a game - especially as table tennis is so complex and potentially fast with many other things competing for my attention other than mental strategy. What do you do to focus your mind, clear it of unnecessary clutter and then remain focused on the job in hand for the duration of a match?

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Brian,

What do you like more? Orange or White Balls (jokes aside :lol: )

What camera are you using to film your videos?
You see, I've watched this user on Youtube : http://www.youtube.com/worldrubber (Japanese)
I can see from their website and blog that there like You and Dynamic Table Tennis.
They offer self made DVDs and their Youtube Account offer free Videos.
What they don;t have is the facility and equipment to shoot videos.
Pretty much the ordinary, HD Camera, Mic, Table, Balls and Seminar Type DVDs.
Though you offer much better content in English, I wish that someday you offer Seminar Type DVDs where the camera stand behind the table and you and your partner show things etc. It's much more convient and much easier to edit.
I think when I viewed my friend's purchase of Textbook Table Tennis in mp4 format, the quality wasn't that good to HD. Sometimes it was blurry due to all editing etc. Plus it gets annoying with the title of Dynamic Table Tennis and Music keep on appearing and repeating. So I ask that in the later DVDs, if possible try to keep it as simple as possible. Though I like to make my post shorter and summarize it, I'm too tired today so I might be posting another post later.

EDIT: Long Story Short, maximize your HD Camera, keep the video organized and simple and don't over do it with the "decorations".

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Great Questions! I will try to answer as best I can.

Style Profile
What I mean by that is being able to bullet point the points of interest, and that could be if the player always does goes for a 3rd Ball. Players that are going for the 3rd Ball are going to do it often, as well as early. Their objective is to establish their games, quick fine tune their shots for the match, and gain the tempo in the match.

If that player sets up that 3rd to happen out of the BH Counter. Most players have a attack sequence that happens from a certain area of the table, and maybe their attack shot is not to good, but from that position that have their sequences down packed, so quickly make not of where the attacks are coming from.

You have to acknowledge if they have a good follow up shot. Most players haven't thought through the 1st or second attack, and if you can return multiple attacks shot you will know whether or not they can follow up, or if they have no real agenda outside of their 1st initial attack shot.

Find out if they are 5-7 rallies deep with a good variety of shots. If you can neutralized the 1st attack you have to understand if the player really does have a true agenda of trying to outplay you, and making it a point to play multiple shot around the table will help you establish if they are interested in the point going into extended rallies.

If they are playing to win, or playing not to lose. This is probably the most important aspect of "Style Profile", and that is understanding if your opponent wants to play the ball through you, or having you miss. Some players will have the attitude of trying to play pass you, but actually their profile really wants you to be the player to miss. So you have to know the difference between a weak attempt to threaten you with an attack shot, or a player that is their life's ambition to get the ball pass you. All of this information is being passed along really fast, especially for a player that you have never played, but that information is there. The biggest obstacle will be trying to gather all this information, find and objective to winning, without turning into a spectator while in the match.

Next Answer: Their is a very fine line between taking advantage of your opponents weakness, and executing your own game plan. If you are a player that is concerned with being a strong competitor, you have to make an attempt to do both. Backing off your attack shots, or changing angles may spell disaster to your opponents, and you have to approach that in a way that you don't feel like you are sacrificing your game, but implement the best "Tactical Approach". If you don't have the skills to execute what you have to need to do to, then you have to go with what you have. Expanding your "Skill Based" should be something that is addressed in training, so you can call on it in the heat of battle.

Next Answer: I want you to "WRAP" your head around this before I give you the next answer to your question. If you are playing someone in your peer level group, then 75% of your points that are won, are actually played at 60%-75% of your perceived effort. So I truly would recommend you at least becoming proficient at playing up to 75% of your perceived effort without feeling threaten that your opponent will obliterate the ball. You only win 4 points per game hitting your best shot against a player in your peer level group, which means the bulk of the points are won in even effort exchanges.

Last Answer to your Question: A quick story to help you understand the difference between knowing the path, and walking the path. I lived in played in Romania from 2001-2004, and my coach was Andrei Filimon's dad. I was mostly a FH Attack Player. I had a been working on my BH Loop Attack shot for about 8 weeks in training camp, and I had perfected it. What I hadn't perfected was my "Gut Instinct" to execute it in competition. So in our first League Match, I was going with the FH Attack every time I had the chance, and Coach Filimon kept saying, "What about your BH Loop"?, and I kept saying, "OK, I'll do it". In the last league match of the day the score was tied 2-all, and I was playing the 5th match. The score was 9-all in the 5th, and Coach Filimon called a time out. He said, "Brian, everyone in this room knows you are going to serve and FH attack, even this 7 year old girl sitting here that does not even know how to play. So do a BH Serve, then BH Loop down the line". I went to voice my concern and he said, "I'm going to the bathroom to take a crap", and just walked away. Now, I'm faced with actually testing this shot in the most critical moment of the match. So, I served a BH Serve short to the FH, and my opponent pushed to my BH Loop, and I ripped a BH Loop down the line pass my opponent. The crowd went silent, and I was thinking, "What have I done"? I looked over at the coach and he bowed his head as if to say, "See". Up 10-9 in the 5th I served it again, and my opponent was so confused that he pushed the ball in the net. That was my moment I because fearless in "Training My Instinct" with the proper shot that I have been executing in training. There is no other way to learn Mental, Emotional, Tactical, and Strategic awareness but to implement it in the ideal environment which "Competition".

I hope this information paints a good picture for you.

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Also, Brian, did you have any matches with other professional players other than those in America and Andrei Filimon?

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Thanks for your email. I have always used yellow balls, but recently I have become much more fond of the white balls. I'm not sure why, but I have traded my yellow balls for white.

I'm using a Sony HD Camera, which works well with Final Cut Pro.

I'm have a Clinic Coming up at the end of the year, and I'm going to have about 30 player attend, and shoot it as a "DVD", so I show all different type of players, and how to address correcting their technique, etc. Right now, I'm up to my eyeballs with running the company.

The downloadable format of Textbook Table Tennis is good quality if you watched the Quicktime Version, but the Windows Version is not as good just because that format never really comes out good when you down convert from the original. The original final of Textbook Table Tennis is 120GB and is in HD, and it is an incredible thing to watch on an HD TV. That quality is stays consistent if you buy the DVD, and there is no real way around making it better when down convert it to a small file. The beauty is players can buy the video, and download it to their computer from all over the world.

With regards to film-making, every producer has their style. From Steven Spielburg to Eagle Eye, to Michael Bay with Transformers and Bad Boys, to George Lucas and the Star Wars Series. I went to school and I studied every aspect of how to produce a video. I have kept it extremely simple, but more importantly I wanted it to have a very high production value. Intro Music, Outtro Music, and Voiceover are all apart of making a video with a high production value. I coupled that with very strong content, as well as strong execution of every technique. I'm not saying that my DVD is the best, but I know based on all the elements you need, it truly does stand out. I wanted it to be on par with what you will see if you watch a Yoga Video, or a Tae Bo Video. It doesn't have to be a Hollywood Production, but it shouldn't look homemade. I think having a high production value is what is missing in the majority of Instructional Table Tennis Videos. And having "Decorations" is ok, if you have strong content to back it up. Some videos just have "Decorations", and are lacking in the content.

I think you should focus more on the content than the decoration, because that is where you will get your improvement.

That's my take on it

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Thanks for the help Brian.

I tried the player profiling tonight. I expected it to be too much to concentrate on the technical aspects of my game and the strategy side but it actually helped me relax and focus on what I was doing. I actually had something I could concentrate on and it started to make me more aware of other things I was doing. A long way to go, but this has been a big help. Thanks

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Brian,

I did emphasize on content but sometimes me and my friends get pissed off making us say "Is there a NEXT Button around"

I want to explain this. Normally when you buy Instructional DVDs, when you play it in Media Plays, in the Playlist, they will have Chapters and this will be useful specially for people like me. Is it possible to do in the Downloadable Versions?

While I do get your point there, can you give us your basis on how you choose your equipment? (Blade/Rubber) Did Butterfly just gave you recommendations or you picked what you want and just played?

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That is a 64Million Dollar Question man. I don't want to be pulled into your debate, so I will only give "YOU" my opinion. If a player is interested in playing like someone else, I don't believe they have paid close enough attention to themselves. The questions you have to ask are:

1. Can I play like that player
2. Do I want to play like that player
3. Does playing like that player work for my mindset?


All too often I get clients that come to me wanting to play like "Ma Long" or "Timo Boll", and I explain a concept to them that helps them get the correct perspective. There are 2 types of developments, and that is "Skill-based" and "Ability-Based". Either you can beat a person because your skill level is just too high, or you can dominate a person because they simple can't handle your "Physical Output".

You can watch any DVD, but you only have what god gave you. What I"m talking about in my videos is developing the "Correct" Technique, which may look like mines. But it will not think, perform, or be put under pressure like mine. So you shot are unique to you, and only "YOU". I have fast feet, and big power, but I will never play like Ma Lin in my wildest dreams. So it is unrealistic for anyone else to look at one of the best players in this Universe and say, "I want to play like him".

I would suggest for the player to look deeper inside themselves and find out what they want to accomplish with their own style development. My style was developed based on what I was giving from a skill and ability standpoint. The rest was filled in my me using my judgement.

So, I would say, "Use your Judgement"

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Brian, I'm curious on how a person like you chooses their equipment. I mean you have an attitude that's like "If I have a table, a training partner and a bucket of balls, I can still train Table Tennis" and I think that kind of attitude is what table tennis players should imitate. Timo Boll used to practice in a local sports center when he was still in his home town waiting for a contract to become a professionals.

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I choose my equipment based on 2 simple things. Players choose their equipment based on how well it plays "Attack Shots", and most players keep their equipment if it can navigate touch shots, blocks, and underspin play shot on a moderate level. So you have to weigh the pros and cons of that, and your equipment will find you.

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Can you tell me why you still use Butterfly equipment? I understand Tenergy is a must but why use Energy Force 3 shoes, Kreanga Aeros and Catapult if you can get much quality things from other brands for a much better price.

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I have never publically said that I don't like Butterfly equipment. In fact, I have been quoted as saying that I buy my equipment every since I left.

I still have my equipment because it is the best set-up I have ever had. Just because I'm not sponsored by Butterfly does not mean I have to use equipment from another company. I see no value in being sponsored if a player is my level, and I would rather much buy my equipment just like a regular customer.

The main reason I have not gone to any other company is I'm not convinced that the other companies are actully making better equipment

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I sorry if I offended you or something but I didn't say you don't have a right to buy equipment or something like that. My question included a "why" in it which means there's a reason why you buy Butterfly equipment and your reason is that Butterfly offers quality equipment. I'm just saying you can get much better equipment at a much lower cost. With economic crisis happening in the world, it's bound time people should start saving as much as before. I myself started with Butterfly quality items as I was really blinded by marketing claims and stuff like that. My savings suffered. Being a student who was only given like $40 per week, I think I suffered that most like not having lunch at school and just water until I joined OOAK forums and started wondering why do people here don't use Butterfly? I started and researched on budget Chinese brands and I only started using them at this age of 19 and I am in college now. Almost 6 years of suffering from Butterfly, I could have saved and at least serve myself a better lunch but it's better than never. Right?

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