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Hi Mathias,

no, the rubber is no Tensor rubber.It is more an allround rubber with a high control but enough power for me on a thick balsa blade.

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Thanks thats interesting.

We do you use it in preference to a tensor rubber? Would a tensor rubber give too much power on a fast balsa blade. Basically it is not random that you have selected this rubber. I was just wondering how this might apply to the rest of us, who mostly use balsa blades.

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The AmSir Fantasy is not for the throughgoing attacker who wants to have the fastest topspin. It is for players who want to have the opportunity zo attack with a very high control.
I used the rubber because my style went at a time more into a defensive style and I did not practice that much so that a very fast and thick rubber was more difficult to control.
Now I use the M-S version which gives me better feeling in topspin attack. The H-M version is very hard and more controlled. It is better for playing more defensive and even for shooting. I use more topspin so I changed to the M-S version.

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Thanks ... do you tune your rubber? Or rather did you tune the rubber? Why not use a slower blade and a faster rubber (such as a tensor rubber). Sorry to keep going on about this Sebastian, but what you are doing with inverted is a bit unusual, there's got to be more to it.

Greg Lets use to do random, played BTY TBS as a chopper for years because he started as a looper (where TBS is a good blade) and when he switched continued with the same blade. When he switched he commented how great a choppers blade was for chopping

Also would like to go through the two international games at http://noppen-lehrgang.de/index2.htm if okay. This could be a bit tedious for you though.

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it is okay you ask:

I am involved into AmSir and it is good for me so I play it. They are working now on a fast after-speed-glueing-rubber.
I did not tune till now but I think of doing. One month ago I did not want to do it ever but let me say: It is difficult to find a player of the first 3 leagues in Germany who does not tune.If players do not tune they get their rubbers tuned from their brandmark. So it is a pity you are the "idiot" if you do not do.
It is so usual that time that it is not really to blame. It seems to be the normal thing. People will be more surprised if yousay you do not.

Your last sentence I did not really get.

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Hi Sebastian,

That's interesting about the tuning. Are a lot of players using the "Spezialbehandelt" pips, as well?

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As I see not many pimple players tune their pimples.This is more a "problem" of the inverted players.
I think the main diference is that you would realize a tuned pimple directly by seeing or feeling. Also you can see the effect in a better way.

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I had to write it in another way. With "tuned pisps" I meant pips with less friction than allowed like speedplay said.
Now we have the same base of discussion

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Do you "roll" the ball often? That is sort of catching the ball on the pips with an open blade and rolling the blade over the ball to flick it back.

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@mynamenotbob:

I am sorry, but I do not understand exactly what you mean. The point where you roll over the ball to give backaspin? This is nearly unbelievable for me so thet I do not think you mean it

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I was also confused by the 'roll' as well. It is a technical description used in forums - but I never knew quite what stroke it referred to.

I think, but could be easily very wrong, it is where you do a 'topspin' type stroke against backspin. This is probably wrong but I'd guess it would be the long pip equivalent of a 'forehand flick'.

The main strokes you like appear to play are:
1. The sidely stroke to the left hand corner (long)
2. A 'drop shot' - extremely short ball just over the net on the right hand side of the table as you are looking at it.

How much spin variation do you do in your strokes Sebastian?

This is really helpful by the way, because we (or I am) are beginning to really understand your game.

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I too want to thank your for your involvement and providing answers to these questions. Have you made any progress in developing your own brand of long pimple rubber?
Thanks,
tOD

@mathias:

I do sometimes spin variation but not extremely much.
When I play pimple topspin I sometimes touch harder for less spin and sometimes softer for a slower ball which has rotation.
When chopping I sometimes touch longer with more usage of hand movement and sometimes short half only dropping.

@theold duffer:

I am far now for a not so fast rubber which is very controlled and which goes not up when blocking topspin etc.but we have to solve one problem there.I think we will make it but this will last alittle bit more time.

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@theold duffer:

I am far now for a not so fast rubber which is very controlled and which goes not up when blocking topspin etc.but we have to solve one problem there.I think we will make it but this will last alittle bit more time.

Danke, vertraue ich, dass Sie in der Lage sind, die Probleme bald zu überwinden. Schaut vorwärts zum Versuchen Ihres neuen lrubber. Traurig ist mein Schulejunge Deutsch nicht sehr gut.

tOD [Manchmal wundere mich ich, wenn mein Spiel Tod zu mir oder zu meinen Konkurrenten ist:)]

Sebastian: Can you give me some tips on how you handle high and slow balls to your backhand. I realise if you're quick enough you can hit them with your forehand, but what if there's no time to do this? Do you ever try and hit them with the pips?

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