OOAK Table Tennis Forum


A truly International Table Tennis Community for both Defensive and Offensive styles!
Live Table Tennis Videos Table Tennis News Live OOAK Forum Links About OOAK Table Tennis Forum OOAK Forum Memory
It is currently 18 Oct 2017, 00:37


Don't want to see any advertising? Become a member and login, and you'll never see an ad again!



All times are UTC + 9:30 hours




Post new topic Reply to topic  [ 10 posts ] 
Author Message
 Post subject: Long pips on backhand?
PostPosted: 26 Mar 2016, 11:15 
Offline
Full member

Joined: 19 Jan 2016, 09:19
Posts: 65
Has thanked: 0 time
Been thanked: 5 times
Is it a good idea to use long pips on the backhand side? Does the spin reversal depend on the stroke you use, the incoming spin, or both?


Top
 Profile  
 

PostPosted: 26 Mar 2016, 18:19 
Offline
Iron Pips
Iron Pips
User avatar

Joined: 14 Jun 2010, 22:07
Posts: 3448
Location: Göteborg, Sweden
Has thanked: 514 times
Been thanked: 278 times
Blade: DMS Invictus
FH: DHS Hurricane 3 NEO
BH: DMS Diabolic 1,6 mm
Bobobo wrote:
Is it a good idea to use long pips on the backhand side? Does the spin reversal depend on the stroke you use, the incoming spin, or both?

I suggest you start with Greg Letts website and read his very excellent description on how long pips works (that's where I started some 8 years ago :) ).
http://www.gregsttpages.com/articles3/5 ... -beginners

Also look at this series of articles on the same subject on that page:
http://www.gregsttpages.com/articles3/5 ... ng-pimples

Then you can narrow down your questions a little and it will be easier for others to help you.

_________________
My blog: Def-attack's attempts to find balance between defence/attack | Serving techniques and strategy section


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: 27 Mar 2016, 00:19 
Offline
Full member

Joined: 19 Jan 2016, 09:19
Posts: 65
Has thanked: 0 time
Been thanked: 5 times
Def-attack wrote:
Bobobo wrote:
Is it a good idea to use long pips on the backhand side? Does the spin reversal depend on the stroke you use, the incoming spin, or both?

I suggest you start with Greg Letts website and read his very excellent description on how long pips works (that's where I started some 8 years ago :) ).
http://www.gregsttpages.com/articles3/5 ... -beginners

Also look at this series of articles on the same subject on that page:
http://www.gregsttpages.com/articles3/5 ... ng-pimples

Then you can narrow down your questions a little and it will be easier for others to help you.

Based on the article, i want to use an attacking long pips style, but im assuming that the long pips are on the forehand side? I wanted to produce backspin by looping against topspin and occassionally chopping (which i heard was harder to do with a penhold grip).


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: 27 Mar 2016, 02:43 
Offline
The Court Jester
The Court Jester
User avatar

Joined: 23 Apr 2010, 09:33
Posts: 1166
Location: Canada
Has thanked: 4 times
Been thanked: 82 times
I have seen players with LP on the backhand.

-Traditional penhold players used to hitting with one side of the bat only (BH is traditional backhand). If they are caught out of position, they use the LP on the other side of the bat. A lot of times, this can surprise the opponent.

-Twiddlers.

-Chopping with LP backhand, but this is an awkward stroke.


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: 27 Mar 2016, 03:00 
Offline
Iron Pips
Iron Pips
User avatar

Joined: 14 Jun 2010, 22:07
Posts: 3448
Location: Göteborg, Sweden
Has thanked: 514 times
Been thanked: 278 times
Blade: DMS Invictus
FH: DHS Hurricane 3 NEO
BH: DMS Diabolic 1,6 mm
Bobobo wrote:
Def-attack wrote:
Bobobo wrote:
Is it a good idea to use long pips on the backhand side? Does the spin reversal depend on the stroke you use, the incoming spin, or both?

I suggest you start with Greg Letts website and read his very excellent description on how long pips works (that's where I started some 8 years ago :) ).
http://www.gregsttpages.com/articles3/5 ... -beginners

Also look at this series of articles on the same subject on that page:
http://www.gregsttpages.com/articles3/5 ... ng-pimples

Then you can narrow down your questions a little and it will be easier for others to help you.

Based on the article, i want to use an attacking long pips style, but im assuming that the long pips are on the forehand side? I wanted to produce backspin by looping against topspin and occassionally chopping (which i heard was harder to do with a penhold grip).

There are some who uses lp on FH side but rarely for pure attacking,ä. Most players who uses lp has it on BH side. Few lp rubbers will hold up for attacking game (pips fall off). good lp for attacking is Prashida Long A and Friendship 755 and perhaps KTL Stranger attack. And some more. If you wants to attack and still have LP effect but better attacking ability I think something like Spinlor Keiler would suit you. It is a mp rubber, look for review and videos in mp section.

_________________
My blog: Def-attack's attempts to find balance between defence/attack | Serving techniques and strategy section


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: 27 Mar 2016, 03:34 
Offline
Full member

Joined: 19 Jan 2016, 09:19
Posts: 65
Has thanked: 0 time
Been thanked: 5 times
Def-attack wrote:
There are some who uses lp on FH side but rarely for pure attacking,ä. Most players who uses lp has it on BH side. Few lp rubbers will hold up for attacking game (pips fall off). good lp for attacking is Prashida Long A and Friendship 755 and perhaps KTL Stranger attack. And some more. If you wants to attack and still have LP effect but better attacking ability I think something like Spinlor Keiler would suit you. It is a mp rubber, look for review and videos in mp section.
Can you consistently rally topspin to topspin using rpb with long pips? What do you look for in attacking long pips?


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: 01 Aug 2016, 21:18 
Offline
New Member

Joined: 31 Jul 2016, 07:38
Posts: 25
Location: France
Has thanked: 0 time
Been thanked: 0 time
Blade: cornilleau CPEN
FH: short pips 2mm
BH: nothing
I used to play long pips with shakehand grip for more than 20 years, before switching to penhold 2 years ago.

Of course I have tried to play long pips RPB ... It's very difficult, penhold grip isn't done for !


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: 05 Aug 2016, 01:59 
Offline
Senior member

Joined: 11 Aug 2015, 01:44
Posts: 106
Has thanked: 0 time
Been thanked: 10 times
Blade: Custom Defense
FH: Friendship 802 (SPs)
BH: Super Block (LPs)
I tried it before switching to shake hand. It was too difficult and your strokes were limited, i.e., no consistent push for instance. LPs on PH backhand requires super twiddling skills.

_________________
Custom Defense::: Friendship 802 : Dr. Neubauer Super Block


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: 16 Aug 2016, 05:52 
Offline
New Member

Joined: 31 Jul 2016, 07:38
Posts: 25
Location: France
Has thanked: 0 time
Been thanked: 0 time
Blade: cornilleau CPEN
FH: short pips 2mm
BH: nothing
the only way of playing long pimples as penhold player is - I mean - to play 1 side et turn your racket - one side backside - one side long pimples

there are japanese players playing so, I have seen it , and a woman playing for luxembourg at Rio 2016, playing anti-spin or backside on side


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: 16 Aug 2016, 06:45 
Offline
LP Collector
LP Collector
User avatar

Joined: 01 Aug 2012, 06:57
Posts: 1838
Location: Hampshire, UK
Has thanked: 263 times
Been thanked: 212 times
Blade: Nittaku Barwell Fleet
FH: DHS Dragonow 1.8
BH: Hellfire OX
My team mate uses LP on his FH to attack. He plays penhold, and uses inverted RPB too. He uses 755, on my recommendation, and has found it to work well.

He's from China, and his style is based on that of one of the top female Chinese players at ~2nd/3rd tier (ie not quite international level).

_________________
"When one eye is fixed upon your destination, there is only one eye left with which to find the Way."

Read my blog: "LordCope's Latest Learnings Log": http://ooakforum.com/viewtopic.php?f=58&t=24452


Top
 Profile  
 
Display posts from previous:  Sort by  
Post new topic Reply to topic  [ 10 posts ] 


Don't want to see this advertisement? Become a member and login, and you'll never see an ad again!



All times are UTC + 9:30 hours


Who is online

Users browsing this forum: No registered users and 2 guests


You cannot post new topics in this forum
You cannot reply to topics in this forum
You cannot edit your posts in this forum
You cannot delete your posts in this forum
You cannot post attachments in this forum

Search for:
Jump to:  
Copyright 2012 OOAK Table Tennis Forum. The information on this site cannot be reused without written permission.

Powered by phpBB® Forum Software © phpBB Group




Don't forget to 'LIKE' our forum on Facebook if you enjoy the content: