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PostPosted: 24 Jul 2017, 00:31 
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I am convinced that we need and can develop and super aggressive RPB ala Fan Zhendong and Zhang Jike. I am convinced we need this with the change in ball and the changes of the game. I was experimenting using more pressure on my thumb getting my elbow high and using my body to generate speed to getting about 75% with my amicus differing positions spins etc. Unfortunately, I'm staring at 60 year old and may not have time to develop the technique. I was wondering if you all have been experimenting as much as I and any suggestions you may have.


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"Man_iii" seems to have it down pat.. :lol:

viewtopic.php?f=28&t=31482&start=15#p339262

Unfortunately his forehand needs work...

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Sure. Just open the blade a bit more with your thumb and drive through more. Keep the frisbee action.

Can you bh loop shakehand? Exact same principle...

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I've not seen any pros doing it though. Wong Chun Ting I feel has the best RPB of the top players.

https://youtu.be/htd5U334tvs

Almost like Wang Hoa. Running around his forehand.


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PostPosted: 07 Aug 2017, 01:04 
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I had some helpful advise from Silver ! :-) RPB can DEFINITELY be used extremely aggressively.

I tried to use Kreanga's BH forearm rotation as the basis for the RPB and BOY WAS IT A GLASS CANNON !

Also I was trying to emulate the TPB BH attack that I believe Yoshida Kai and Ryu-Seung Min use a lot that is part of the J-pen BH shot ?

So with the RPB flex and Kreanga's power any kind of "normal" or "under-spin" ball will get put away like a bullet. Its the "dead" or "weird" returns to the BH that might require a bit more judgement and finesse that go back to the Wang Hao / Ma Lin / Xu Xin RPB :-D

Lots of the young players are now realising that I attack with hella' power on the BH. So I am having to do RPB BH to FH or deep BH. With that side-spin curve away from the player location. Its called "inside-out" ? or something :lol:

Anyways ! Aggressive RPB a-la Kreanga style is now my main weapon :-D Hope someone else has a similar story so we can develop the RPB into a truly spectacular contender for future World No.1 Penhold players ! :rofl:

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PostPosted: 15 Jul 2018, 10:39 
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How has your RBP developed by now?
I’m just starting out with it but I’m loving how surprisingly explosive it can be!


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How has your RBP developed by now?
I’m just starting out with it but I’m loving how surprisingly explosive it can be!


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RPB BH for me is my main finish/ attack loop/killer return etc :D

So right now RPB BH is pretty solid part of my game. I have developed serve-3rd ball attack sequences, etc.

All Pips-out players get to see my fully confident RPB BH attacks into that corner and the "inside-out" BH down-the-line with insane speed + spin. Doesn't matter how much spin-reversal or heavy dead ball they want to push to my BH. It's a full on RPB BH loop-kill every time.

As to how did I learn it ? 1. I was a natural BH player. Attack, loop, chop, push, block on the BH side was always waaaaay better than anything I could do on my FH side.

Switched to C-pen within 1 month of playing Shakehand seriously and unable to compete or improve. On-the-fly played RPB BH without any idea what that stroke was and/but it felt natural. I got a thrill electric shock of joyous confirmation when I Youtubed videos of C-pen players XX, Ma Lin, WangHao, LGL doing the "modern" RPB C-pen BH.

No coaching, hours of YT videos, repeatedly failing, persisting despite injuries, recovering+correcting, believing in myself to learn the techniques needed.

Finding supportive friends and getting help from talented C-pen players.

Joining a Local State-level club. Continuing to believe in myself and training.

Getting help here in these forums ;-)

It wasn't an easy journey, and this is only the beginning :rofl:

One bit of advice I feel is get a proper C-pen coach and learn BOTH TPB and RPB !!!

My FH still needs work, but no one will take my FH lightly! I am a FH killer too ! :lol: Though not as deadly as my RPB BH. :rofl:

Good luck in your own journey and hope to hear back some good news :-)

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PostPosted: 07 Aug 2018, 16:39 
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man_iii wrote:
Alas wrote:
How has your RBP developed by now?
I’m just starting out with it but I’m loving how surprisingly explosive it can be!


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RPB BH for me is my main finish/ attack loop/killer return etc :D

So right now RPB BH is pretty solid part of my game. I have developed serve-3rd ball attack sequences, etc.

All Pips-out players get to see my fully confident RPB BH attacks into that corner and the "inside-out" BH down-the-line with insane speed + spin. Doesn't matter how much spin-reversal or heavy dead ball they want to push to my BH. It's a full on RPB BH loop-kill every time.

As to how did I learn it ? 1. I was a natural BH player. Attack, loop, chop, push, block on the BH side was always waaaaay better than anything I could do on my FH side.

Switched to C-pen within 1 month of playing Shakehand seriously and unable to compete or improve. On-the-fly played RPB BH without any idea what that stroke was and/but it felt natural. I got a thrill electric shock of joyous confirmation when I Youtubed videos of C-pen players XX, Ma Lin, WangHao, LGL doing the "modern" RPB C-pen BH.

No coaching, hours of YT videos, repeatedly failing, persisting despite injuries, recovering+correcting, believing in myself to learn the techniques needed.

Finding supportive friends and getting help from talented C-pen players.

Joining a Local State-level club. Continuing to believe in myself and training.

Getting help here in these forums ;-)

It wasn't an easy journey, and this is only the beginning :rofl:

One bit of advice I feel is get a proper C-pen coach and learn BOTH TPB and RPB !!!

My FH still needs work, but no one will take my FH lightly! I am a FH killer too ! :lol: Though not as deadly as my RPB BH. :rofl:

Good luck in your own journey and hope to hear back some good news :-)


So far my RPB has developed quite nicely and it’s earned me many points and sets at work. I think the guys are quite used to it now and I’m starting to surprise more people when I TBH punch it with some side spin packed in it to change the pace. Quite a nice weapon since I’ve been exclusively practicing my RPB and everyone knows it now.

Can’t wait to start club play. Just joined a local club!


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