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What grip do you use to be able to switch between traditional block and RPB?

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BTY Joo Se Hyuk | BTY Tenergy 64 2.1mm | TSP P1R 1mm

Chop til you drop baby!

My grip is similar to Kan Yo's grip.

So basically this?



If so, when doing traditional blocks, you'd have to change grip yeah? Any tip on how to do that quickly and shift back to original grip?

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BTY Joo Se Hyuk | BTY Tenergy 64 2.1mm | TSP P1R 1mm

Chop til you drop baby!

I don't change my grip between FH/traditional BH/RPB. It is a challenge to find a "neutral" grip that allows you to use all three effectively. I think you have to have the 3 fingers extended, like Kan Yo, Ma Lin, Wang Hao, in order to maintain stability when using your RPB. When performing a FH and RPB, use your thumb pressure to control the blade angle, with a relaxed index finger. I have a bad habit of pushing down with my index finger on my FH, similar to how some JPHers will use their index fingers, hooked around the JPH handle. This opens the blade up, so my loops fly off the table.

With the traditional BH, you can lift your thumb up to allow more leverage to close the blade.

I find it to hard to change my grip in middle of a point as a PHer, so I try to avoid it.

RPB is different style and I don't think it's better than the traditional penhold style. I know a few amateurs who are trying to imitate Wang Hao and Ma Lin because they think it's RPB which makes them so good. But their RPB is too awkward and inconsistent that they go nearly nowhere - zero progress.
Traditional single-sided penhold with some long pips on the back, just in case, is still the preferable way to go!

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Senkoh 5
Radical 1.8.

I don't change my grip either, and I keep my fingers curled, just like my coach does. He blocks traditionally with pips but also loops with the reverse side. So there are a range of ways to do it.

I think most Chinese penholders don't change their grip, though they can vary the angle with thumb and forefinger pressure. Korean style penholders seem to varytheir grip more, also Chiang seems to move his fingers.

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-- Andrew

Spintech All Around Penhold blade
Spinlord Keiler II 1.5 black
Nittaku FastArc G1 red

729 all around blade
Tibhar Grass D-Tec S Red
Nittaku FastArc G1 black

i find it difficult to open up angles with RPB with the curl grip.

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BTY Joo Se Hyuk | BTY Tenergy 64 2.1mm | TSP P1R 1mm

Chop til you drop baby!

I think PH will still be around, but in lesser numbers. The reason being there will be coaches in China/Korea/Japan who will still teach PH in addition to the shake-hand grip.

RPB is different PH style and I do not think it is better than the traditional penhold style. RPB does bring the PH grip back into the modern age at the moment. However, the problem will be that there is not enough coaches, especially outside China, who can properly coach a PH. Most Chinese penholders do not change their grip, though they can vary the angle with thumb and forefinger pressure. Korean style penholders seem to vary their grip more.

Wang Hao and Ma Lin are most likely the 2 best RPB PH players in the world at the moment.