OOAK Table Tennis Forum

My Violin C-pen is 5,3 mm and my J-pen RH is also the same (5,3 mm). According to the site of iruiru, J-pen PH is 5,8 mm, but I don't know if it is correct, because usually RH and PH is only different in shape but not in thickness.
Silver, Violin is fast, I think it is faster than my Speed 90 or Cypress R (both 9 mm). It is confirmed by my friends at my club.

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Expert II crwi C-Pen
Red Acuda P1

hrmmmm

my Violin C (5.31mm measured) feels slower than my nittaku AP...

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Chasse Patate

What rubber are you using on your Violin C-pen ? I am using F2 max (1 side only, no RPB), and the weight of the blade without rubber is 77 grams.

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Expert II crwi C-Pen
Red Acuda P1

sriver fx on the fh, tango on the bh. blade is 78g, rubbers are ~42g each.

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Chasse Patate

Just a lit input of mine.

I used to have a BTY J-pen double side blade - twiddle handle, carbon (5 ply).

It was thinner than usual and had a bit more vibration comparing to other J-pen I had used.

But supposely, after abt 15 yrs now, my dad is still using it and its still going strong.

Oh ya, I actually caught the edge and it flew out once, and during rallies I did try twiddle while doing a backswing and had it flew out of my hand a few times.

So, in summary, from my experience, the thin blade was tough enough and I suppsoe the technologies now a days should make better blades.

Cheers,
H

Generally short pips are about 5-10 grams lighter than most inverted sheets. 889 with its softer sponge will be lighter than Uranus, while Uranus will be faster and better with a softer blade.

-- Andrew

I think I'll go with Uranus then. Thanks! Now I just have to wait until Alex gets Torrent in the shop. Speaking of which, I was meaning to ask; would EEII harm a sheet of Torrent, or is whatever makes it have a slight speed glue type effect different from tensor stuff? I'm going to be playing unglued, so I want to get the most out of my rubbers via other techniques.

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Jpen: Galaxy 982 juniper 8mm- Darker Provine Tension-50 2.2 or Tibhar Torpedo Soft 2.2
Shake OFF: Galaxy T8 ST- FH: Darker PT-50 2.2, BH: Juic Varites 1.5
Shake DEF: modified Joo- FH: Reactor Corbor 2.2, BH: Globe 979 1.5

I've used EEII with Inspirit and Saviga and those have worked fine, but I haven't tried it with Torrent.

I'd be a little leery of doing so as the Tensor both strethes the topsheet and expands the sponge, exactly what EEII does, so it might be overkill. If you do it, let us know how it turns out.

-- Andrew

I'll probably give it just one coat, and a light one at that.

I still haven't received a response from Ms. Suzuki. Does it normally take this long? Also, in the case that I don't think the J-Speed 90 Reverse won't suit me, has anyone tried the Kokutaku Laser Carbon Jpen? I'd be willing to give carbon another chance if the above had decent control and could perform well on all distances.

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Jpen: Galaxy 982 juniper 8mm- Darker Provine Tension-50 2.2 or Tibhar Torpedo Soft 2.2
Shake OFF: Galaxy T8 ST- FH: Darker PT-50 2.2, BH: Juic Varites 1.5
Shake DEF: modified Joo- FH: Reactor Corbor 2.2, BH: Globe 979 1.5

I've had replies vary from 15 minutes to 3 days, with the average being <24 hrs.

I haven't tried the Laser Carbon, but I have asked about it (Note: CPen).

> Could you please describe the ply structure for me? Is it a 5-wood 2-carbon blade?
--Yes, this is 2-Carbon, 2 Hinoki (Cypress), 3 hard material wood.

> How deep are the carbon layers? Are they immediately below the top ply?
--It is the second ply from the outer ply

> ie, Top ply, Carbon, wood, wood core, wood, carbon, top ply
--The conbination is Hinoki, Carbon, wood, core, wood, Carbon, Hinoki.

> Also, are the 5 plies of wood all hinoki wood? Or what type of wood is used?
--Hinoki is only the outer ply. I do not know exactly what type of wood is used in the midle.
Kokutaku just says "Hard Wood Material".

> Finally, what is the weight range of this blade?
--We have 81g.

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Chasse Patate

Hobbes, if you decide to buy the Kokutaku Laser Carbon, please give me a review after you have it. I was told by Malvin from another forum last year that Laser Carbon has either soft or medium feel and not as fast as Schlager Carbon, but I am not sure if I remember it well.

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Expert II crwi C-Pen
Red Acuda P1

Well, I would go ahead and buy the blade right now were it not out of stock. It's very light (74-80 grams), and 8.5mm thick. If she does not plan to stock any more, I may have to go with a Laser Carbon.

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Jpen: Galaxy 982 juniper 8mm- Darker Provine Tension-50 2.2 or Tibhar Torpedo Soft 2.2
Shake OFF: Galaxy T8 ST- FH: Darker PT-50 2.2, BH: Juic Varites 1.5
Shake DEF: modified Joo- FH: Reactor Corbor 2.2, BH: Globe 979 1.5

Uranus is a harder sponge, so if the Laputa is soft it would be more powerful than 889. 889 would be better on a hard carbon blade.

-- Andrew

Erm, I was referring to the J-Speed 90, but it's soft hinoki, so Uranus still seems to suit it better.

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Jpen: Galaxy 982 juniper 8mm- Darker Provine Tension-50 2.2 or Tibhar Torpedo Soft 2.2
Shake OFF: Galaxy T8 ST- FH: Darker PT-50 2.2, BH: Juic Varites 1.5
Shake DEF: modified Joo- FH: Reactor Corbor 2.2, BH: Globe 979 1.5

Oops, yes I agree the Uranus would be better on that blade.

-- Andrew