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Since we all watching some videos and discussing strategies of players in the US(Der_E, Gjoe and BH), I hope this help you guys have better understanding.

http://www.usatt.org/member_rankings.shtml

Note: US member team rating is sure lower than Sweden or Japan....and pleaseeeeeee don't mention China!!!!

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That is a Ranking Chart (based on the title).

One has to clarify the difference between ranking and rating.

A player's rating is a number (of points) which represents his playing ability relative to other rated players. A player's rating changes by graded amount depending upon the rating difference between his rating and the rating of his opponent.

Ratings are quantity driven, while rankings are quality driven. Ranking provide a numerical listing of top players, based on their ratings.

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Cheers BH, very useful! That would make you an advanced to elite player

I think the title is wrong, as it's a 'rating vs No. of members' chart... Good explanation of the difference Arlene.

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crazy how the curve drops after 1700 and 2300!

From what I've found, there is definitely a big difference between a 1700 player and a 1900 player, probably a bigger difference than if you compared 1500 to 1700. 1900 players seem to be so much better at initiating the attack and keeping errors down than 1700 level players. It seems like 1500 level players have a decent chance of upsetting a 1700 player on a regular basis, but 1900 players tend to have a much higher percentage of wins over 1700s. Anyone from the U.S., feel free to disagree with me, this is just my humble impression.

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I'm not so sure that an "average tournament player" is an 1800 level player. I'd say the most people that I encounter at tournaments are somewhere in the 1400-1600 range.

In theory, the difference between 1200-1300 should be the same as between 2700-2800. But I don't honestly think it works once you get that high on the scale. It's just that, at some point when you're the highest rated person, you couldn't possibly gain any more points, as the amount of points that you win and lose is based on the difference in rating between you and your opponent. So, the person who's the highest rated person in the country (say, a 2750) could never gain more than a handful of points, even if they beat another 2700 player. And if there's nobody rated higher than them, there's no way to gain bunches of points.

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I sure hope these aren't the absolute numbers (less than 1 thousand players per category!)

This gives us a nice look on the US system, but (IMHO) the difference between 2800-2300 (lets say Wang Liqin vs Bogeyhunter) is a bit greater than 2300-1800 (Bogeyhunter vs (insert other forum member rated 1800))

But when I look at my own rating system (Belgian rating), it's not much better: players with the same rating can be very different in level, based on which province they're from (players advance faster in rating in some provinces than in others). Baer in mind, Belgium is about the size of a fly on a world map, and it's split up into 10 provinces.

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i wish someone would figure out the canada US rating conversion.. they used to have one.. but realized it wasnt realistic..

sad but true...

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I copied this from the USATT web page. It goes back to around 1999. Shows all the players from USA and other countrys top 50. Not too many USA players. Shows we still dont take this sport seriously.

1 2460 1/1/1970 Kong, Linghui 2911 (2979) FN 7/6/2002
2 14122 1/1/1970 Wang, Liqin 2907 (2927) FN 7/6/2002
3 14351 1/1/1970 Kim, Taek Soo 2903 (2903) FN 7/9/2000
4 14215 1/1/1970 Ma, Lin 2899 (2899) FN 7/6/2002
5 14365 1/1/1970 Kreanga, Kalinikos 2871 (2871) FN 11/25/2001
6 534 1/1/1970 Waldner, Jan Ove 2870 (2879) FN 7/4/2004
7 21453 1/1/1970 Samsonov, Vladimir 2868 (2882) FN 7/10/2005
8 21485 1/1/1970 Liu, Guozheng 2866 (2875) FN 7/6/2002
9 4363 1/1/1970 Huang, Johnny 2860 (2878) FN 7/4/2004
10 9301 1/1/1970 Florea, Vasile 2858 (2868) FN 7/6/1997
11 758 1/1/1970 Grujic, Slobodan 2857 (2862) FN 7/4/2004
12 15869 1/1/1970 Qin, Zhijian 2856 (2856) FN 7/6/2002
13 4418 1/1/1970 Chiang, Peng-Lung 2852 (2863) FN 7/4/2004
14 27381 1/1/1970 Cheung, Yuk 2843 (2843) FN 7/6/2002
15 759 1/1/1970 Karakasevic, Aleksandar 2842 (2866) FN 12/30/2007
16 21478 1/1/1970 Hakansson, Fredrik 2841 (2841) FN 7/4/2004
17 33756 12/31/2004 Zhao, Peng 2841 (2841) FN 11/28/2004
18 20363 1/1/1970 Qiu, Yi Ke 2840 (2840) 11/28/1999
19 21385 1/1/1970 Chuan, Chih-Yuan 2836 (2855) FN 7/10/2005
20 2495 1/1/1970 Liu, Guoliang 2836 (2950) FN 7/6/2002
21 27383 1/1/1970 Ryu, Seung Min 2833 (2868) FN 7/4/2004
22 14262 1/1/1970 Karlsson, Peter 2832 (2837) FN 7/4/2004
23 9572 1/1/1970 Oh, Sang Eun 2831 (2831) FN 7/10/2005
24 21243 1/1/1970 Matsushita, Koji 2830 (2842) FN 12/29/2003
25 9076 1/1/1970 Schlager, Werner 2829 (2840) FN 7/4/2004
26 649 1/1/1970 Syed, Matthew 2828 (2828) FN 7/9/2000
27 14205 1/1/1970 Primorac, Zoran 2827 (2867) FN 7/4/2004
28 21245 1/1/1970 Iseki, Seiko 2827 (2827) FN 7/9/2000
29 71972 1/1/1970 Bo, Wang 2820 (2820) 6/18/2006
30 14477 1/1/1970 Saive, Jean-Michel 2819 (2842) 12/30/2006
31 21235 1/1/1970 Korbel, Petr 2810 (2810) FN 7/4/2004
32 33735 12/31/2004 Wang, Jianjun 2810 (2810) FN 11/28/2004
33 10534 1/1/1970 Sonnet, Federic 2807 (2807) FN 7/21/2002
34 31040 1/1/1970 Chen, Zhibin 2804 (2804) 11/30/2003
35 34346 1/1/1970 Cho, Eon Rae 2804 (2804) 7/10/2005
36 34345 1/1/1970 Weixing, Chen 2804 (2804) 7/10/2005
37 1675 1/1/1970 Liu, Song 2804 (2816) FN 7/8/2001
38 21455 1/1/1970 Chtchetinine, Evgueni 2801 (2801) FN 7/9/2000
39 24528 1/1/1970 Boll, Timo 2801 (2801) FN 7/8/2001
40 8406 1/1/1970 Truska, Jaromir 2801 (2801) FN 7/8/2001
41 24514 1/1/1970 Blaszczyk, Lucjan 2796 (2798) FN 12/30/2007
42 664 1/1/1970 Legout, Christophe 2795 (2795) FN 7/10/2005
43 5751 10/31/1996 Chen, Longcan 2794 (2809) MD 7/7/2007
44 71041 1/1/1970 Jiang, Weizhong 2790 (2790) FN 3/5/2006
45 9077 1/1/1970 Jindrak, Karl 2790 (2790) FN 7/6/2002
46 21483 1/1/1970 Joo, Se Hyuk 2789 (2789) 7/4/2004
47 32696 1/1/1970 Yoshida, Khaii 2784 (2784) FN 7/4/2004
48 12234 6/30/2008 Fan, Yi Yong 2783 (2859) WA 8/20/2006
49 32691 1/1/1970 Lee, Jung Woo 2782 (2782) FN 7/10/2005
50 1186 1/1/1970 Nohira, Naotaka 2782 (2782) FN 7/4/1994

The first set of ratings is current and the second is the highest they have been.
Funny that there is only about 127 point diff between number 1 and number 50.

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