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Hi, Ranger-man. This makes sense ... except that the blades already ARE in a certain order. I'd put them in alphabetical order. For instance, if you look at the blades listed under "ayous," here is the list: e.g., Avalox BT555, Avalox P500, Avalox P700, Butterfly Adolescen, Butterfly Innerforce ZLC, Butterfly Kong Ling Hui, Butterfly M. Maze, Butterfly Petr Korbel, Butterfly Primorac, Butterfly Zhang Yining, Cornilleau Hinotec ALL+, Cornilleau Hinotec OFF-, Dawei GTS, Dawei Wavestone, Donic Dicon, Donic Liping Kitex, Donic Opticon RS, Donic Waldner V1, DHS H-WL, DHS Hurricane Hao, DHS Hurricane King, Galaxy/Yinhe M-4, Joola Fever, Joola Guo, Joola K5, Joola MC1, Joola Wing Fast, Joola Wing Medium, Nexy Color, Nittaku Ludeack, Nittaku Wang Nan, Stiga Allround Classic, Stiga Allround Evolution, Stiga Clipper, Stiga Ebenholz NCT V, Stiga Energy Wood, Stiga Offensive Classic Old, Stiga Offensive Classic New, Stiga Tube Offensive, Tibhar IV-L, Tibhar IV-L Light Contact, Xiom Amadeus, Xiom Aria, Xiom Fuga, Xiom Jazz, Xiom Maximus, Yasaka Extra, Yasaka Extra Offensive

As you can see, the Avalox blades come first, followed by Butterfly, then Cornilleau, Dawei, etc. Moreover, even within the list for each manufacturer, they are in alphabetical order. So I think it should be easy to find any blade you'd be looking for, right?

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I. Re-Impact Tachi Plus 2019; FH: Nittaku FastArc G-1 1.4mm; BH: Saviga 77 Monster OX
II. Re-Impact Turbo; FH: Spinlord Sandwind 1.5mm; BH: DMS Kamikaze OX
III. Re-Impact Smart; FH: TSP Spinpips RED 2.1mm; BH: Dr. Neubauer Gangster OX
IV. Sauer & Troger Firestarter; FH: Spinlord Waran 1.8mm; BH: Giant Dragon Snowflake OX

You are right TT, now that I look at the list more closely, they are actually in the order that I was thinking off, so yep, it works great and is easy to fin the blade we are looking for.

Great job again mate, and I certainly think this will help us get an idea of how each blade plays or should play and help choose equipment.

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You have done a great job, TradtionalTradesman!

While visiting Beijing Expo last whole week, I took time off to visit a TT research centre. I was shown articles(in chinese) of the similar nature but in greater detail. There were video clips that showed the playing characteristic of the main wood materials. It is fantastic to watch in slow motion the strength each material exhibits in terms of spin, power and dwell time, given the same thickness of fixed rubber type. Perhaps OOAK could do one such research.

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My TT kits:
1. Xiom Jazz: 729 Faster 2.2mm, H3 neo 2.2mm
2. Clipper wood: Andro Roxon 450 2.2mm, H3 prov(2.2mm)
3. Btty Viscaria: Gambler SS , and Outlaw.

Wow that sounds very interesting jixiaolan! I don't suppose there is any way of getting hold of these articles or videos, is there?

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Setup1: Re-Impact Smart, Viper OX, Victas VS 401 Setup2: Re-Impact Barath, Dtecs OX, TSP Triple Spin Chop 1.0mm Setup3: Re-Impact Dark Knight, Hellfire OX, 999 Turbo
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A TT research centre? Wow, I didn't know such things existed. I just thought table tennis equipment manufacturers did their own testing. I'd love to be able to read about some of this research.

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I. Re-Impact Tachi Plus 2019; FH: Nittaku FastArc G-1 1.4mm; BH: Saviga 77 Monster OX
II. Re-Impact Turbo; FH: Spinlord Sandwind 1.5mm; BH: DMS Kamikaze OX
III. Re-Impact Smart; FH: TSP Spinpips RED 2.1mm; BH: Dr. Neubauer Gangster OX
IV. Sauer & Troger Firestarter; FH: Spinlord Waran 1.8mm; BH: Giant Dragon Snowflake OX

Yes, I thought these only existed in the minds of the marketing departments

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OOAK Table Tennis Shop | Re-Impact Blades | Butterfly Table Tennis bats
Setup1: Re-Impact Smart, Viper OX, Victas VS 401 Setup2: Re-Impact Barath, Dtecs OX, TSP Triple Spin Chop 1.0mm Setup3: Re-Impact Dark Knight, Hellfire OX, 999 Turbo
Recent Articles: Butterfly Tenergy Alternatives | Tenergy Rubbers Compared | Re-Impact User Guide

Sorry to be so slow to reply. I've just finished in a five day TT camp taught by Jon Bosika and Ilija Lupulesku.

Monnin hardness is a measure of how resistant the wood is to being indented.

Balsa 0.3
Western Red Cedar 1.1
Common Pine 2.5
Teak wood 4.7
Ebony 7.0
Padouk 8.3
Ipe 14.6
Greenheart 19.8

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OSP Ultimate cpen
Acuda S1 Turbo
Hallmark Phoenix ox

I've added in as examples blades from the latest entries on the blade composite index.

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I. Re-Impact Tachi Plus 2019; FH: Nittaku FastArc G-1 1.4mm; BH: Saviga 77 Monster OX
II. Re-Impact Turbo; FH: Spinlord Sandwind 1.5mm; BH: DMS Kamikaze OX
III. Re-Impact Smart; FH: TSP Spinpips RED 2.1mm; BH: Dr. Neubauer Gangster OX
IV. Sauer & Troger Firestarter; FH: Spinlord Waran 1.8mm; BH: Giant Dragon Snowflake OX

Thank you, that is very useful!

Sounds like a great camp, did you get much out of it? sorry....perhaps a topic for a new thread...

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OOAK Table Tennis Shop | Re-Impact Blades | Butterfly Table Tennis bats
Setup1: Re-Impact Smart, Viper OX, Victas VS 401 Setup2: Re-Impact Barath, Dtecs OX, TSP Triple Spin Chop 1.0mm Setup3: Re-Impact Dark Knight, Hellfire OX, 999 Turbo
Recent Articles: Butterfly Tenergy Alternatives | Tenergy Rubbers Compared | Re-Impact User Guide

Sorry to disappoint you as to me, but the access to these articles is being controlled, as they are results of years of study by the people concerned. I consider myself very fortunate getting to see them. Actually I was trying to get some replica of them - those materials we are familiar such as koto/spruce /ayous etc. Well the reply was, as expected, negative.

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My TT kits:
1. Xiom Jazz: 729 Faster 2.2mm, H3 neo 2.2mm
2. Clipper wood: Andro Roxon 450 2.2mm, H3 prov(2.2mm)
3. Btty Viscaria: Gambler SS , and Outlaw.

In my continuing effort to understand how different types of materials work in blades, I came across this very technical but very informative thread on another forum:
http://www.tabletennisforum.gr/forum_posts.asp?TID=11262

(Some people from our forum were actually participants in that discussion.)

Anyway, some of you, especially anyone with a math/engineering/physics background, may find the info in that thread very interesting, while others may find it inaccessible, but I figured I'd include the link here for anyone who's interested.

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I. Re-Impact Tachi Plus 2019; FH: Nittaku FastArc G-1 1.4mm; BH: Saviga 77 Monster OX
II. Re-Impact Turbo; FH: Spinlord Sandwind 1.5mm; BH: DMS Kamikaze OX
III. Re-Impact Smart; FH: TSP Spinpips RED 2.1mm; BH: Dr. Neubauer Gangster OX
IV. Sauer & Troger Firestarter; FH: Spinlord Waran 1.8mm; BH: Giant Dragon Snowflake OX

planchonello: planchonello outer layers produce great speed; this wood is most often found in blades designed for the power attacker.
e.g. the outer layer of joo se hyuk and mazunov

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please forgive my poor English

Thanks, Mengcan1985. I've added in the two examples you provided. If anyone else has more info about properties of woods that haven't been addressed yet or additional examples of blades not listed that contain any given wood, please don't hesitate to post.

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I. Re-Impact Tachi Plus 2019; FH: Nittaku FastArc G-1 1.4mm; BH: Saviga 77 Monster OX
II. Re-Impact Turbo; FH: Spinlord Sandwind 1.5mm; BH: DMS Kamikaze OX
III. Re-Impact Smart; FH: TSP Spinpips RED 2.1mm; BH: Dr. Neubauer Gangster OX
IV. Sauer & Troger Firestarter; FH: Spinlord Waran 1.8mm; BH: Giant Dragon Snowflake OX

Thank you great post! I can't cure my limba addiction.

Glad you're finding it useful. I've been trying, every now and then, to put in additional blade examples for each type of wood, but if anyone has information they'd like to add, either in the way of examples or, even better, giving descriptions of the properties of woods (or other blade-construction materials) that are, as yet, blank or incomplete, please post the info here, and I will edit it into the original thread.

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I. Re-Impact Tachi Plus 2019; FH: Nittaku FastArc G-1 1.4mm; BH: Saviga 77 Monster OX
II. Re-Impact Turbo; FH: Spinlord Sandwind 1.5mm; BH: DMS Kamikaze OX
III. Re-Impact Smart; FH: TSP Spinpips RED 2.1mm; BH: Dr. Neubauer Gangster OX
IV. Sauer & Troger Firestarter; FH: Spinlord Waran 1.8mm; BH: Giant Dragon Snowflake OX