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Author: | Pipsy [ 12 May 2012, 08:18 ] |
Post subject: | Victas Koji Matsushita |
I think this is a very promising defensive blade from Japan, designed by Koji Matsushita. The young and talented defensive player Yuto Muramatsu plays it. [Edit march 2013: Muramatsu changed to Joo Sae Hyuk blade in the second half of 2012] Attachment: P1130447 (640x428) (560x375).jpg [ 102.74 KiB | Viewed 22960 times ] Attachment: P1130444 (640x428) (560x375).jpg [ 145.56 KiB | Viewed 22960 times ] Some characteristics: Blade Dimensions: 156 x 165 Handle dimensions: 100 x 30 x 23 Weight: 88g Composition: 5 plies of wood Estimated hardness: medium-soft Estimated flex: medium Speed: 3/5, certainly not slow Control: superb control I found chopping with red Palio CK531 ox very controlled and was able to keep chops very low. Blade is not too flexy and has no excessive vibrations. I first tried Globe 999T on the forehandside, but this felt too hard & heavy for me. With the lighter & softer LKT Pro XP weight, speed, spin & control are in perfect balance, topspin from a distance went well too. I am curious about the exact wood composition and estimation of hardness & flex. Does anyone recognize the striped wood ply? Could the core be ayous? [Edit March 2013: Outer plies are Limba, medial plies are Japanese Cedar Fir, core probably Ayous] Pipsy |
Author: | haggisv [ 12 May 2012, 08:58 ] |
Post subject: | Re: TSP Victas Koji Matsushita |
The striped ply would be kiso hinoki... certainly looks like it. |
Author: | ilikepie [ 12 May 2012, 11:04 ] |
Post subject: | Re: TSP Victas Koji Matsushita |
haggisv wrote: The striped ply would be kiso hinoki... certainly looks like it. It kinda looks like spruce to me... |
Author: | fazer227 [ 12 May 2012, 14:11 ] |
Post subject: | Re: TSP Victas Koji Matsushita |
haggisv wrote: The striped ply would be kiso hinoki... certainly looks like it. if you are referring to the outer ply, I do not think it is hinoki. |
Author: | GrumpyJoe [ 12 May 2012, 15:24 ] |
Post subject: | Re: TSP Victas Koji Matsushita |
I have been using that blade for awhile now and think it is probably one of the better pure chopping blades out there. He's a VERY low throw with the P1r on 1.0 sponge. Some other choppers were putting balls into the net because of the throw is so low. This is a blade I will be using for awhile. |
Author: | haggisv [ 12 May 2012, 17:32 ] |
Post subject: | Re: TSP Victas Koji Matsushita |
fazer227 wrote: haggisv wrote: The striped ply would be kiso hinoki... certainly looks like it. if you are referring to the outer ply, I do not think it is hinoki. I agree, I was referring to the striped ply, which does not look like it's the outer ply. |
Author: | VoiD [ 12 May 2012, 22:17 ] |
Post subject: | Re: TSP Victas Koji Matsushita |
Nice looking blade could you please post a whole blade picture ? Im searching for a larger picture seem I cannot find one... Thanks |
Author: | VoiD [ 13 May 2012, 03:56 ] |
Post subject: | Re: TSP Victas Koji Matsushita |
"certainly not slow"? faster than matsushita pro special? |
Author: | Pipsy [ 14 May 2012, 05:40 ] |
Post subject: | Re: TSP Victas Koji Matsushita |
Here are two whole blade pictures. You can also find additional info about the blade elsewhere on OOAK Attachment: P1130442 (348x520).jpg [ 119.32 KiB | Viewed 22834 times ] Attachment: P1130443 (520x348).jpg [ 119.42 KiB | Viewed 22834 times ] I found a link with pictures of the Xiom Fuga that at first sight has a similar wood composition and thickness as the Victas, Fuga's composition is koto-spruce-ayous-spruce-koto: viewtopic.php?t=3887 Second ply can also be the striped (Japanese!) Kiso Hinoki, as Haggisv mentions. Can't compare Victas with the Butterfly Matsushitas, but I assume the Butterflies are softer and a bit slower. Pipsy |
Author: | manofan [ 14 May 2012, 22:36 ] |
Post subject: | Re: TSP Victas Koji Matsushita |
I dont Think Its Hinoki, because the blade is kind of hard... |
Author: | Marathon Man [ 15 May 2012, 03:50 ] |
Post subject: | Re: TSP Victas Koji Matsushita |
The brand Victas was created by Koji Matsushita and the Victas Koji Matsushita blade is nothing else than the Matsushita Pro Model from BTY with a different badge... For the Matsushita blade : 5 plies / Thickenss : 5,4mm / Dimensions : 165 x 155 mm / Handle : ST and FL Victas : http://www.victas-jp.com/home/blade/KojiMatsushita.html you'll see that the characteristics are the same. I'll try this blade in a few weeks..... Cheers, Ma'man |
Author: | manofan [ 15 May 2012, 04:04 ] |
Post subject: | Re: TSP Victas Koji Matsushita |
Marathon Man wrote: The brand Victas was created by Koji Matsushita and the Victas Koji Matsushita blade is nothing else than the Matsushita Pro Model from BTY with a different badge... For the Matsushita blade : 5 plies / Thickenss : 5,4mm / Dimensions : 165 x 155 mm / Handle : ST and FL Victas : http://www.victas-jp.com/home/blade/KojiMatsushita.html you'll see that the characteristics are the same. I'll try this blade in a few weeks..... Cheers, Ma'man No they are not the same... Someone already post pictures of both, and they are different wood composition |
Author: | Marathon Man [ 15 May 2012, 04:13 ] |
Post subject: | Re: TSP Victas Koji Matsushita |
manofan wrote: Marathon Man wrote: The brand Victas was created by Koji Matsushita and the Victas Koji Matsushita blade is nothing else than the Matsushita Pro Model from BTY with a different badge... For the Matsushita blade : 5 plies / Thickenss : 5,4mm / Dimensions : 165 x 155 mm / Handle : ST and FL Victas : http://www.victas-jp.com/home/blade/KojiMatsushita.html you'll see that the characteristics are the same. I'll try this blade in a few weeks..... Cheers, Ma'man No they are not the same... Someone already post pictures of both, and they are different wood composition The Victas Koji is supposed to be the copy of the Matsushita Pro Model with the same wood composition and same dimensions... Cheers, Ma'man |
Author: | roar [ 15 May 2012, 12:07 ] |
Post subject: | Re: TSP Victas Koji Matsushita |
Marathon Man wrote: manofan wrote: Marathon Man wrote: The brand Victas was created by Koji Matsushita and the Victas Koji Matsushita blade is nothing else than the Matsushita Pro Model from BTY with a different badge... For the Matsushita blade : 5 plies / Thickenss : 5,4mm / Dimensions : 165 x 155 mm / Handle : ST and FL Victas : http://www.victas-jp.com/home/blade/KojiMatsushita.html you'll see that the characteristics are the same. I'll try this blade in a few weeks..... Cheers, Ma'man No they are not the same... Someone already post pictures of both, and they are different wood composition The Victas Koji is supposed to be the copy of the Matsushita Pro Model with the same wood composition and same dimensions... Cheers, Ma'man Since it's not a copy of the Matsushita Pro Model, I think we can safely assume it's not supposed to be a copy of it either. Cheers. |
Author: | Pipsy [ 15 May 2012, 20:36 ] |
Post subject: | Re: TSP Victas Koji Matsushita |
Good point, roar. Differences between the two are clear in this link: viewtopic.php?f=43&t=18970 There are hundreds of blades with same size, thickness and number of plies. Victas has a different wood composition than Matsushita Pro and feels harder. Pipsy |
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