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PostPosted: 08 Sep 2016, 22:47 
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If your focus is on looping and touch-play why do you want a carbon blade?


The point of the arylate/aramid that is cross-woven with the carbon is that it restores the ability to loop while still expanding the sweet spot of the blade. That is why at the moment the vast majority of the world's professional players (a) loop constantly and (b) use a blade that has a mixture of some carbon and a fiber like arylate or zylon.


I suspect the OP is not one of the world's professional players. The difference between a top professional player and an amateur is that the former have better timing and superior arm/bat-speed. This enables them to overcome the lack of touch and dwell-time/dip that comes with carbon blades. Remember, even Samsonov (who perhaps has the best touch and control in the world) went back to an all-wood blade because of the lack of control of his carbon blade. I am not a top professional player but have reasonable timing and decent arm-speed and I still find it very hard to get sufficient spin/dip on my loops with such blades (I also notice diminished touch). This doesnt mean that its impossible but, to me at least, it is more difficult (and I have played with a Viscaria for 3 months) than with a slower all-wood blade. If the OP is not an advanced player and his desire is to play a looping game with increased touch then IMO he perhaps shouldnt be looking at such blades.


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carbonman wrote:
Baal wrote:
carbonman wrote:
If your focus is on looping and touch-play why do you want a carbon blade?


The point of the arylate/aramid that is cross-woven with the carbon is that it restores the ability to loop while still expanding the sweet spot of the blade. That is why at the moment the vast majority of the world's professional players (a) loop constantly and (b) use a blade that has a mixture of some carbon and a fiber like arylate or zylon.


I suspect the OP is not one of the world's professional players. The difference between a top professional player and an amateur is that the former have better timing and superior arm/bat-speed. This enables them to overcome the lack of touch and dwell-time/dip that comes with carbon blades. Remember, even Samsonov (who perhaps has the best touch and control in the world) went back to an all-wood blade because of the lack of control of his carbon blade. I am not a top professional player but have reasonable timing and decent arm-speed and I still find it very hard to get sufficient spin/dip on my loops with such blades (I also notice diminished touch). This doesnt mean that its impossible but, to me at least, it is more difficult (and I have played with a Viscaria for 3 months) than with a slower all-wood blade. If the OP is not an advanced player and his desire is to play a looping game with increased touch then IMO he perhaps shouldnt be looking at such blades.


The presence of arylate and related fibers tames the carbon substantially. That is my opinion based on years of experience with these blades. I find most of the blades in this class perfectly controllable, far more so than earlier and current generations of pure carbon blades.. These composite blades have some tradeoffs of course. But one cannot discount the fact that they can help compensate for the occasional off-center contact. With balls that now weigh 2.765 grams on average these blades become more favorable. These blades can also be used effectively by non-professional players, I see it every day.

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