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PostPosted: 28 Dec 2016, 08:32 
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I play a modern defender game and really like the Jo Se Hyuk blade for this style -
But I am having trouble with the weight of the blade. My Hyuk is about 100 grams.
I have a permanent hamd injury so it would be Best to reduce the weight.

I Use it with Tenergy 05 1,9 and Dtechs 0,5.

Has other had the same problem and how did you solve it ?

I havent found similar blades with low weight.

Had anybody tried it with 1,7 Tenergy 05 ?

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You might want to try to lower the size of the blade head. This happened to me inadvertedly. I can feel the diffrence in weight compared to the other Joo blade I own. That blade has the original blade size.

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Yes these blades tend to be on the heavy side, and since it's a little oversize, there is an extra weight in the rubber too. The Tenergy is of course quite a heavy rubber. I doubt going to the 1.7m, (from 1.9mm) will make that much difference. A lighter rubber should help more, but it won't have the same feel and characteristics

You can either search around for a lighter Joo blade (which will be a little slower), or find a different blade with similar characteristics that's lighter. The one I know off is the Darker 7P-2a.DF, which is lighter (low eighties), a little slower and a little softer feel, but otherwise similar characteristics and virtually the same shape.

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Lorre wrote:
You might want to try to lower the size of the blade head. This happened to me inadvertedly. I can feel the diffrence in weight compared to the other Joo blade I own. That blade has the original blade size.


How much did you reduce the blade ?
I would still like it to be a little oversized :lol:

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Safer to counterweight it, by placing lead tape akin for golf beneath the grip wrap.

This help to make the blade more maneuvreable

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It is NOT a balance problem - I need to reduce the weight because of hand injury !
How is Victas Koji Matshusita Offensive compared to Jo See Hyuk ?
I Can See that it is a lot lighter weight vice.

Has anybody tried both ?

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I wouldn't toy with hand injury. Why not to try some very light def blade like Barricade? Yes, it's propably totally diffrent from JHS and you might lose few rating points at first, but health first! ;)


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I cant find other blades with the same properties.
Just have to find Out How much I need to cut of ?

Im thinking about cutting 1 cm off All the Way around the blade.

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Tenergy05fx wrote:
How much did you reduce the blade ?
I would still like it to be a little oversized :lol:


TBH: I don't know it myself. :lol: The guy who I buy my rubbers from, always uses a grinding disc to make the rubbers fit the blade. Inadvertedly he also cuts a bit of the blade head. The blade head is now +- the shape of a regular blade head.

Edit: I measured it. From the top of the blade head to the beginning of the handle the lenghts didn't change. However, when measuring the distance between both sides of the blade head, there's +-1cm difference between my regular blade and my spare blade.

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Not sure how much weight you want to reduce. How about leaving a bigger gap from the handle (ala penhold) when gluing the rubber onto the blade?


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glue the rubber 1 or even 2 cm from the handle...

and maybe try dtecs ox...that 2 can easily shave 10-15g of the total weight of the blade...

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Tenergy05fx wrote:
It is NOT a balance problem - I need to reduce the weight because of hand injury !


I went through this with my wrist and elbow...and still go through it. Counter-weighting isn't just for balance, it literally makes the blade lighter in terms of leverage and its impact on your joints. If centered toward the tip, the same blade will be heavier in terms of it's impact on your joints. For proof, hold a 20lb weight close to your chest. Then hold it out with arms extended, and tell me how your joints are taking the same weight. It matters.

It's not just about the weight, it's the center of gravity. Der_Echte has a monster of a blade (called "The Beast" where he filled in the handle with materials and put the weight towards the handle. With double inverted and handle tape, it came to 218 grams! The blade by itself was 120! Yet this monster felt more nimble and lighter than my defplay setup at 172grams or so, and my hand/wrist/elbow all felt better with the heavier blade. No lie. I borrowed it for a month to see how I would do with the heavy blade. Here is a link to his mod: https://www.tabletennisdaily.co.uk/foru ... ight=beast

Overall weight does still matter so reduce where you can, but at least 50% of the impact to your joints (including your hand) is more about the center of gravity. The balance also allows you to lighten your grip on the blade with the weight centered toward the handle. You don't have to squeeze as hard to maintain control when swinging.

I now counterweight all of my blades. Bego's suggestion of golf tape (lead tape) put at the base of the handle and under some grip tape is a perfect way of doing it.

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Japsican wrote:
Tenergy05fx wrote:
It is NOT a balance problem - I need to reduce the weight because of hand injury !


I went through this with my wrist and elbow...and still go through it. Counter-weighting isn't just for balance, it literally makes the blade lighter in terms of leverage and its impact on your joints. If centered toward the tip, the same blade will be heavier in terms of it's impact on your joints. For proof, hold a 20lb weight close to your chest. Then hold it out with arms extended, and tell me how your joints are taking the same weight. It matters.

It's not just about the weight, it's the center of gravity. Der_Echte has a monster of a blade (called "The Beast" where he filled in the handle with materials and put the weight towards the handle. With double inverted and handle tape, it came to 218 grams! The blade by itself was 120! Yet this monster felt more nimble and lighter than my defplay setup at 172grams or so, and my hand/wrist/elbow all felt better with the heavier blade. No lie. I borrowed it for a month to see how I would do with the heavy blade. Here is a link to his mod: https://www.tabletennisdaily.co.uk/foru ... ight=beast

Overall weight does still matter so reduce where you can, but at least 50% of the impact to your joints (including your hand) is more about the center of gravity. The balance also allows you to lighten your grip on the blade with the weight centered toward the handle. You don't have to squeeze as hard to maintain control when swinging.

I now counterweight all of my blades. Bego's suggestion of golf tape (lead tape) put at the base of the handle and under some grip tape is a perfect way of doing it.


I really would NOT like to cut the blade, and do NOT know How to use the lead tape.
I Will try to remove my griptape and put the fh rubber 2 cm above the handle, Maybe this Will solve some of the weight issues.

If this doesnt solve it, Will a Korbel blade or something like it play similarly to the Hyuk ?
It Will have a little smaller head and therefore have a lower weight.

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PostPosted: 29 Dec 2016, 02:42 
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I really would NOT like to cut the blade, and do NOT know How to use the lead tape.

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If you know how to use edge tape, scotch tape, or any tape really, you know how to use lead tape. You just stick it and cut it. May or may not come with paper on the sticky side to remove. Really, it's nothing technical...very easy. You can unroll the amount you want and weigh it if you like. But all I did was add more if it needed more.

And I stuck it to the bottom end of the handle...purchased at a tennis shop. But golf shops have it too.

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