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Author:  Joo Se Kev [ 25 Jan 2017, 07:53 ]
Post subject:  Re: Victas Yuto Muramatsu

pgpg wrote:
ludo wrote:
From Victas:
http://victas-jp.com/product/brades/detail/?id=90

Google translation:

Yuuto Muramatsu, a gear that combines super attack and cut
Youth Olympics silver medalist Mr. Yuuto Muramatsu has been trying to raise further levels by seeking the battlefield from Europe in 2016. A new "Yuto Muramatsu" racket is held on its right hand. By using white mahogany wood on the surface, it is a gear that increases the establishment of the attack strength of a single shot, while emphasizing the control of the cut defense. The answer to the new Muramatsu victory equation is this racket.

[Muramatsu sound]
Material: 5 sheets wood
Weight: 93G ±
Made In Japan


Looks like a lighter JSH blade to me :)


These Google translations have certain charm to them... I'm a bit puzzled by 'hold in your right hand' requirement, though. :?:

How much lighter than JSH?


Too bad I'm a lefty. Guess I can't use it :D

Author:  Khal [ 03 Mar 2017, 23:53 ]
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I think the blade has been released.

http://tt-japan.net/index.php?main_page ... ts_id=3314

Can't seem to find it anywhere other than TT-Japan though. The price seems decent, less than 1,000 Japanese yen more expensive than the VKMO. But, do you think it's worth it?

Author:  notfound123 [ 17 Mar 2017, 14:37 ]
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echelon wrote:
Danthespearton wrote:
How doesit compare to the Joo Sae Hyuk and VKMO? Just out of curiosity.

VKMO is slightly slower, softer, and lighter than JSH.
I dare to say overall feel is so similar.



Both of my VKMOs are around 90-91g .. On the other hand JSH is ~99g.
I personally wouldn't say that one is "slightly" slower than the other. IMHO if 10 is a fast carbon blade, I would say VKMO is a 5 and JSH is easily a 7-8.

To me the choice between the two is quite simple: if one wants to FH chop - I would definitely recommend VKMO... and for all Ruwen Filus and Gionis-like defenders out there would probably be better off with JSH.

Author:  ludo [ 27 Mar 2017, 17:03 ]
Post subject:  Re: Victas Yuto Muramatsu

Eric got one... we tested it yesterday and I could compare it to my VKMO.
Here are some photos:

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Author:  ludo [ 27 Mar 2017, 17:15 ]
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I played with two VKMO... ST 84g and now FL 77g. They play quite similar with maybe more flex for the lighter one.
Eric's Yuto is 90g.

The feel of the YM and the VKMO are totally different to me.
YM was slightly thicker, it's quite hard and stiff but not like the VKMO.
That YM reminded me way more of the JSH... only lighter!
More beefy feel than the VKMO and faster too.

The blade was tested with Rasanter V42 2.0mm and Grass DT 0.5.

If the top layers are white mahogany, I don't think the middle ones are similar to the ones on the VKMO.

Eric can answer more questions... the first VKMO I tested is actually his so he knows them both.

Author:  VoiD [ 07 Jun 2017, 02:16 ]
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Question :

So this blade is specifically made for right-handers? :o

I was planning to buy one but I'm a lefty.

Author:  ludo [ 07 Jun 2017, 05:46 ]
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VoiD wrote:
Question :

So this blade is specifically made for right-handers? :o

I was planning to buy one but I'm a lefty.


Google translation :rofl:
Lefty included... no worries :)

Author:  Eric Fountain [ 16 Jun 2017, 12:14 ]
Post subject:  Re: Victas Yuto Muramatsu

Very good by the way. Base feeling is stiff and supportive but there is flex in there when you want it. Controllable for me, good weight range (~90g), beefy feel and nice balance of all features within that class. Probably the best modern defense blade I've tried yet personally. Recommended for people who are legitimately ready to handle something like a JSH but realize that 100g is insanity.

Author:  ludo [ 16 Jun 2017, 15:04 ]
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Eric Fountain wrote:
Very good by the way. Base feeling is stiff and supportive but there is flex in there when you want it. Controllable for me, good weight range (~90g), beefy feel and nice balance of all features within that class. Probably the best modern defense blade I've tried yet personally. Recommended for people who are legitimately ready to handle something like a JSH but realize that 100g is insanity.


Right on.
In feel, it's closer to the JSH than the VKMO.
ST handle of the Yuto is decent but not as thick as the JSH.
Like Eric said, it's a great choice for those who want the power of the JSH without the weight.
It's also not as stiff and therefore more flexible than the JSH.

Author:  Eric Fountain [ 01 Sep 2017, 17:53 ]
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Yes, it is certainly more flexible than I gave it credit for originally; significantly more so than a JSH which I tried a little bit more today. Different blades for sure - JSH is stiffer and perhaps more stable, but Yuto is still alright on those fronts and overall well balanced in all qualities. Another 2k+ chopper here that has both finds JSH (mainly FL2, some P1R) to be easier to chop with than Yuto. I (mostly D.Tecs thus far) am still happy with my Yuto -- that magic 90g JSH is never going to appear so whatever, I'm set. P.S. I have seen a couple really light (79-80g) Yutos so be careful to ask about weight in stock and pick accordingly if that matters to you.

Author:  ludo [ 02 Sep 2017, 02:50 ]
Post subject:  Re: Victas Yuto Muramatsu

Definitely more flexible but also way softer.
That's what I don't like too much about the Yuto... that softness doesn't give a great feedback.
Almost no vibrations, every impact feels muffled and I got to test it with tensors and H3Neo.
It doesn't feel like a defensive blade to me but it works for few guys here so that's good.
Eric plays very well with it and he tested everything on the market :lol:

Author:  haggisv [ 05 Sep 2017, 14:02 ]
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Comparing the JSH to the Yuto, the Yuto is a definite step slower too.... which is good if you find the JSH too fast. ;)

Author:  scdit46 [ 16 Apr 2018, 02:33 ]
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Is Victas Yuto Muramatsu more similar to VKMO or JSH?

Author:  skilless_slapper [ 17 Apr 2018, 12:56 ]
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scdit46 wrote:
Is Victas Yuto Muramatsu more similar to VKMO or JSH?


Closer to the VKMO, but slower and not as hard/stiff. The yuto is not a flimsy blade by any means, just slower than the other 2.

Author:  ludo [ 17 Apr 2018, 13:39 ]
Post subject:  Re: Victas Yuto Muramatsu

Feel wise, the Yuto reminds me more of the JSH than the VKMO but in speed it is similar to the VKMO.
The VKMO is just so hard and stiff.
The Yuto feels softer to me.
Just my opinion...

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